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Thread: Why a Bernina over a Jamone Sewing machine

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    The first year I went to QBL in the 80s I had to rent a machine from Diana Marshall of Gloversville. I had an old Kenmore at home - way too heavy to carry.
    I fell in love with the Bernina 1030 and bought it from her at a good discount when the week was done. It is still my quilt room workhorse, and I still love her.
    I also have a Jem Platinum for workshops, And, a Jem Gold that I leave at my son's home to sew there when I visit.
    All three are good machines.
    If I ever needed to buy a new workhorse - it would again be a Bernina.

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    I have the original Bernina 830 (oldie but goodie) and last year I got a Bernina 440QE. I love them both. Years ago, I bought the little bitty Jamone for classes since the Bernina is so heavy. However, I was not pleased with the quality of the stitches; so got a featherweight for classes. My selection of the 440QE was made because of my experience with the older Bernina and the closeness of a Bernina dealership to have it serviced.

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    I love my Bernina 730 E...it does beautiful embroidery and quality stitches. The front loading bobbin is actually a plus if you embroider a lot or use the machine on a FMQ frame. The BSR feature is the icing on the cake. Bernina accessories are quite expensive, though.
    My MIL has a embroidery Janome Memory Craft 8000, it is a very nice machine and the embroidery arm is far less bulky than other machines' embroidery attachments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace
    Quote Originally Posted by 117becca
    i have a little Bernette - and i like it. I also have an older Singer - 40s or 50s and it is much better workhorse because it will work w/ heavier weight fabrics. I do know that the Bernette isn't designed for the real heavy duty stuff
    Just an FYI a Bernette is NOT a Bernina. It's made for Bernina but not BY Bernina. Clear as mud;>
    Where can I find where my Bernette was made?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KLO
    I have a Bernina 153QE that I bought second hand a few years ago from my LQS. I swore I would never buy a Bernina but I was sewing on an old Singer that was giving me trouble. The owner of the shop said for years that he was going to sell me a machine and finally did. Well, I love this little machine. It does all and more than I could ask for. The only change I would make would be to enlarge the throat space which I gather they have done finally with a newer model. Might do a trade in for that one day.
    DH just bought me a Bernina 440 Aurora & that is my only complaint is the throat space. I don't know what they were thinking when they made this machine, especially since this is supposedly a quilter's edition. They should have allowed more throat space, I agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izaquilter
    Quote Originally Posted by Candace
    Quote Originally Posted by 117becca
    i have a little Bernette - and i like it. I also have an older Singer - 40s or 50s and it is much better workhorse because it will work w/ heavier weight fabrics. I do know that the Bernette isn't designed for the real heavy duty stuff
    Just an FYI a Bernette is NOT a Bernina. It's made for Bernina but not BY Bernina. Clear as mud;>
    Where can I find where my Bernette was made?
    Google it. Several threads say they're made in Thailand for Bernina to resell as a low end machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmaForFour
    Why did you replace the Pfaff? A Pfaff dealer told me that the older Pfaffs which are all metal are the best machines out there bar none.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kas
    I didn't have a Janome dealer around when I got my Bernina. So I never test drove one. I was replacing a Pfaff and had tried the Viking and wasn't impressed. So that is why I got a Bernina.
    The older Pfaffs (10+ yrs > older) WERE all metal, German-designed & made, great quality machines. THEN, they were bought by Viking and made in Sweden. Still OK. THEN they evidently changed manuf. to Eastern Europe & Asia. I had a 25 yr old mech. Pfaff but thought I needed all the newest features. Bought a new one on impulse 3 yrs ago and was totally disappointed. Stupid me, checked the plate & found it was made in the P.R. of Czechoslovakia. ?? Lots of problems and it sewed NOTHING like the older Pfaffs. So much for German Engineering!

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    So many of the quilting experts - Nancy, Liz, Eleanor are using Baby Lock.

    So what does everyone think about this one as they have all dropped Bernina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccthomas
    So many of the quilting experts - Nancy, Liz, Eleanor are using Baby Lock.

    So what does everyone think about this one as they have all dropped Bernina.
    They haven't dropped Bernina due to the machine quality if that's what you're suggesting. The advertising $ has come from a different manufacturer is all. Commercials and ads mean very little to me.

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    When I was looking for a new machine I tested them at a dealer that sold both machines. She told me it the difference between a Cadillac and a Ford. I bought a 640 Bernina Artista and absolutely love it. I am now looking to upgrade to the 830. My old Bernina was about 35 years old with a lot of miles but still runs great.

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    This is funny. I drive a Ford, but would only sew on a Bernina!!

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    I started this discussion and love the passion. Last night I tried to hem jeans on my Janome Gem it would not sew through the thickness. I have a 35 yr old Kenmore and it will sew through anything. It needs cams to do special stitching but I have made the decision to keep it for heavy work and purchase a used Janome one step up from what I have because I don't have any decorative stitching which I will us in my camper and to take to classes. I already have a buyer for the Janome I have. The reason I am going to get a Gem Platinum is that all the accessories I have will fit that one as well.

    Thank you for all your help

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    Be sure to post pictures of your new baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by memere9
    What is your reason if you made that choice?

    Cathy
    I have had no trouble with all the Janome Machines I have had and thought it best to stay with the type that I know and trust.I do have a Brother1500D and will learn to drive it after Christmas has passed. I will have more time to learn how to use it.

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    My Horizon was made in Japan not China...
    Quote Originally Posted by Candace
    Quote Originally Posted by memere9
    Quote Originally Posted by Candace
    I have both a Janome and Bernina! Get two is my motto:> To be serious. Nothing compares to the quality of a Bernina. That being said, it's the most expensive on the market. IMHO worth it, but Janome has an excellent reputation and I was thrilled with my 9000 until I upgraded to my Bernina. So....it really is preference and how much you want to spend on a new toy.
    It seems you can get more for your money with a Janome
    Yes, because Janome is made cheaper in China with cheaper materials. I love my Janome, but there really is no comparison to a Bernina. It's like comparing a Chevy to a Rolls Royce. There's nothing wrong with a Chevy. But, once you've driven a Rolls Royce, it's hard to go back!

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    That was discussed in this thread....

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    BSR was a big factor for me.

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    Whenever this topic comes up I always wonder why people feel putting down one machine brand somehow proves that the other is better. All it really does is put those that own the other brand on the defense.

    As much as I love my Bernina and would recommend anyone try them out, I understand everyone doesn't like the same thing. I would never be so bold to suggest what I own is the best, and someone else's machine was second class.

    My suggestion to anyone looking for a new machine is figure out what features are most important to you, go look at machines with those features and buy the one that you like the best.

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    [/quote]

    The older Pfaffs (10+ yrs > older) WERE all metal, German-designed & made, great quality machines. THEN, they were bought by Viking and made in Sweden. Still OK. THEN they evidently changed manuf. to Eastern Europe & Asia. I had a 25 yr old mech. Pfaff but thought I needed all the newest features. Bought a new one on impulse 3 yrs ago and was totally disappointed. Stupid me, checked the plate & found it was made in the P.R. of Czechoslovakia. ?? Lots of problems and it sewed NOTHING like the older Pfaffs. So much for German Engineering![/quote]

    When I bought my Pfaff 7130 about 8 years ago I was told that it and the others in the same line were the last that were going to be made with metal parts and in Germany/Sweden. Others in the same line were the 7150 and 7170. That's one reason I have hung on to it and didn't trade it when I got my next machine.

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    My Bernina dealer sells both!
    Here is what she tells her customers....think about how long you THINK you will be around using it. think about WHAT you will be wanting to do with it. Think about how much money you THINK you will be putting into the add ons, after the initial purchase.

    If you are young, or have a family full of sewers to leave your Bernina too, then by the Bernina. If you are older, or have only YOU in the family that sews, then get a Janome.

    If you have unlimited amounts of money to spend on extra feet, attachments, lessons, etc, buy a Bernina, if your are limited on how much you can add on to the machine, get the Janome.

    If it is for a second machine, to compliment a bigger/heavier machine that you want to take to classes or travel with, get a Janome. She does not recommend the Bernette for any reason...says it is nothing buy trouble.

    If you want to spend hours learning ALL that the machine can do and you will put all that learning to use, then get a Bernina, if you want to sew, do some thread play and some quilting with little learning curve, get a Janome.

    Janome parts are now interchangable with Elna and Kenmore machines as well.

    I have the older Bernina 830 and just love it, I have taught classes on the New Berninas and they are not for everyone...I also have a Janome Gem for classes...LOVE IT....

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    That sounds like very good advice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccthomas
    So many of the quilting experts - Nancy, Liz, Eleanor are using Baby Lock.

    So what does everyone think about this one as they have all dropped Bernina.
    Eleanor even sold Elna....it is all about $$$ not the machines...really!

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    Both are great machines. I personally own Janome, love them; and don't have a Bernina budget. Like automobiles....would like a Cadillac but can only afford a Chrysler. Both are reputable.

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    Our sewing machine dealer calls Bernninas the sewing machine "caddilacs!

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