illegal knockoffs sold in Walmart?! (Alleged - Not Proved)
09-20-2010, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Favorite Fabrics
Any idea how that "due diligence" is performed?
Would the buyer have to peruse all the new fabrics by all the major players, just to see if they recognize it? Where could they see it? Online at the manufacturers' websites?
That won't be sufficient, if it's a design that's still in the strike-off phase as, at that point, it wouldn't even be visible "out there".
It's a hard issue, for sure! BTW I'm bringing this post to Moda's attention, in case they'd like to speak for themselves about it.
And... I wonder what *does* happen to those preliminary strikeoffs? Does anybody know? Do they get "destroyed", or sold as pound goods, or recycled, or... do they wind up for sale as "no-name" fabrics somewhere?
Would the buyer have to peruse all the new fabrics by all the major players, just to see if they recognize it? Where could they see it? Online at the manufacturers' websites?
That won't be sufficient, if it's a design that's still in the strike-off phase as, at that point, it wouldn't even be visible "out there".
It's a hard issue, for sure! BTW I'm bringing this post to Moda's attention, in case they'd like to speak for themselves about it.
And... I wonder what *does* happen to those preliminary strikeoffs? Does anybody know? Do they get "destroyed", or sold as pound goods, or recycled, or... do they wind up for sale as "no-name" fabrics somewhere?
There's more than one way to do "due diligence." You can and should do it on the seller as well as on the goods.
I know a lot of the original fabric strikeoffs go back to the manufacturer. They use them for display or for showing to retailers. Most of what you see for upcoming lines when you go to buying shows are first strikeoffs. After the buying shows, like Int'l Quilt Market, production is scheduled based on anticipated demand and show orders usually indicated what that is going to be. As far as seconds and misprints are concerned, where they go is anyone's guess, I guess... :mrgreen:
09-20-2010, 01:06 PM
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I don't think you can hold WM responsible until they are made aware of the counterfeit issue. Then they should immediately pull all the fake merchandise.
09-20-2010, 01:08 PM
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I don't think you can hold WM responsible until they are made aware of the counterfeit issue. Then they should immediately pull all the fake merchandise.
09-20-2010, 01:22 PM
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Just went back and read her blog, and several of the other replies. She herself has not seen any of this fabric. It was brought to attention by someone else.
One other gal posted...
before plum was released i bought, here in israel a serten fabric in a local fabric shop with a beautiful print- which after a month or two i saw that it is part of a collection{plum}that wasent even released yet! strange! its as if someone coppied one of your designs befor plum was released. look at my blog post and the date. do one of those fabrics look familere?
http://mellowisme.blogspot.com/2009/...post_5313.html
One other gal posted...
before plum was released i bought, here in israel a serten fabric in a local fabric shop with a beautiful print- which after a month or two i saw that it is part of a collection{plum}that wasent even released yet! strange! its as if someone coppied one of your designs befor plum was released. look at my blog post and the date. do one of those fabrics look familere?
http://mellowisme.blogspot.com/2009/...post_5313.html
09-20-2010, 01:31 PM
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09-20-2010, 01:41 PM
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This is very interesting. I was just at Walmart the other day (one that got rid of fabric) and at the end of an isle were some fabrics rolled on cardboard bolts for $4 (aobut $1 a yard). I had seen some earlier at a fabric carrying WM, but when it listed the type of fabric as "Various fabric content, cotton, polyester, rayon," etc, I walked away. However, at the non fabric WM I Specifically picked up the blue/green feathers on redish background that is shown as a knock off on the designers blog and remarked to my DH "I really don't like that!" Point is, I saw the very "Knock off" fabric that is mentioned. I will watch the outcome of this with interest.
09-20-2010, 03:14 PM
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Well, RST, we tried. I quit. Especially since someone lost respect for this designer because she was mad at the God we call Walmart. That was never my intent and I feel awful now. She's the victim, not the criminal.
A little common sense goes a long way people, and it's not fair to trash this designer for sticking up for her property. I know Wally World will do the right thing, but sometimes it takes a village to bring it to their attention. I'm confident they will make it right and all will be well.
A little common sense goes a long way people, and it's not fair to trash this designer for sticking up for her property. I know Wally World will do the right thing, but sometimes it takes a village to bring it to their attention. I'm confident they will make it right and all will be well.
09-20-2010, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Chasing Hawk
I understand about her reaction. But to start blaming a nationwide chain right off the bat is silly. The blame lies in the manufacturer who allegedly stole her pattern or patterns. Like someone said here earlier Wal mart and even major places like Sears, Khol's, Penny's etc. can't to a search on every item they sell as to where it's origin is at. All they can do is either stop selling the item or sell what is in stock and not use that particular manufacturer.
She also did not dis all Walmart fabric... she only stated that the knock off of her design is printed on fabric that she would not line a bird cage with.
I feel that she has every right to comment about this on her blog.. if she didnt protect her rights, who would. She said nothing that would be considered libel. She stated only what she new to be true and was careful to NOT place blame. She is only letting the buying public know what has happened.
This is not the first time this has happened.. Recently Fabri-quilt was selling a knockoff of anothers designers Tea Cup fabric. She also blogged about it.
It was the people who, like some here have done, started making the comments about Walmart and confusing the issue. Others just jumped on the bandwagon, using it as an opportunity to voice THEIR opinion of Walmart.
Seems the appropriate thing to do would be to voice our support of the designer in her attempt to get her due, take a stance against the practice of copyright infringement, act locally by letting our local discount stores know when we see it in their store and support the designer by not purchasing the knockoff..as it only encourages the practice all the more.
Sometimes it is hard to do the right thing..
09-20-2010, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Chele
Well, RST, we tried. I quit. Especially since someone lost respect for this designer because she was mad at the God we call Walmart. That was never my intent and I feel awful now. She's the victim, not the criminal.
A little common sense goes a long way people, and it's not fair to trash this designer for sticking up for her property. I know Wally World will do the right thing, but sometimes it takes a village to bring it to their attention. I'm confident they will make it right and all will be well.
A little common sense goes a long way people, and it's not fair to trash this designer for sticking up for her property. I know Wally World will do the right thing, but sometimes it takes a village to bring it to their attention. I'm confident they will make it right and all will be well.
09-20-2010, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by gale
Originally Posted by Chele
Well, RST, we tried. I quit. Especially since someone lost respect for this designer because she was mad at the God we call Walmart. That was never my intent and I feel awful now. She's the victim, not the criminal.
A little common sense goes a long way people, and it's not fair to trash this designer for sticking up for her property. I know Wally World will do the right thing, but sometimes it takes a village to bring it to their attention. I'm confident they will make it right and all will be well.
A little common sense goes a long way people, and it's not fair to trash this designer for sticking up for her property. I know Wally World will do the right thing, but sometimes it takes a village to bring it to their attention. I'm confident they will make it right and all will be well.
The designer did not have knee jerk reaction, it was the people who commented on her blog that started all the anti Walmart stuff.. You must seperate the designer and her comments from the general population that went on the attack in her behalf
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