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    Old 02-05-2012, 08:10 AM
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    I don't know if there is a really great machine any more. I did a lot of searching last year and found that since so many are not made in the Country of origin any more that quality has suffered a great deal. I have an Viking that is about 6-7 years old and I am hoping it will out live me so I don't have to try and adjust to a lesser quality machine.
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    Old 02-05-2012, 08:55 AM
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    thanks for sharing the article
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    Old 02-05-2012, 08:55 AM
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    That article was fantastic and very long. It made me feel good because I am a Bernina owner and promoter. I fell in love with them when I worked for about a year in a Bernina Dealer's shop that made their daily bread by doing custom dressmaking and alterations. After working daily on a Bernina I just had to have one or 4. The only other brand machines I own are a Brother embroidery machine in addition to my Bernina embroidery machine. Actually the Bernina one was made with a Brother patent. Since I have almost worn out my Bernina Embroidery machine the only other machine I could get that would use the same software etc. was a brother. I also have a Singer Featherweight as my mother had one and she taught me to sew. I purchased the one I presently have at a yard sale. It was obvious that the persons doing the selling didn't have a clue what they were getting rid of. I only paid $20. There had been a death in the family and some of the relatives were cleaning out the house. After turning over the money I ran to my car with my prize. I gave my mother's featherweight, purchased in 1936, to my neices as she had taught them to sew on it. It was well used and well past it's prime.
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    Old 02-05-2012, 08:57 AM
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    This is why I have my three trusty Featherweights and my ancient Bernina.
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    Old 02-05-2012, 08:57 AM
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    I read this all the way through but I do have my doubts to all the information contained within simply because I guess I am one that likes to see links to substantiate what is being said.....in other words.....sources. I guess when I do decide to buy a new machine I'll still do my own due dilligence.

    I own all vintage Singers and actually bought a Janome from Joann's in San Antonio, Texas for my daughter. Brought it back to her home and set it up for her and to my surprise it sewed like a dream and all for $149.00 so I feel the analogy of $1000 for a decent machine is, in my opinion, malarky!

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    Old 02-05-2012, 08:58 AM
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    My Viking D1 is 13 years old and have never been "repaired" just serviced with updates a few times. It has never given me a problem and I just hope it never does. I do have a problem with the bobbin winder now not wanting to work all the time and guess if it continues guess I'll check on repair cost. I went to my local Viking dealer and asked the price of a good used D1 and he said about $1000. I couldn't believe it but I'm sure the markup is great as he gets these in as trade ins.
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    Old 02-05-2012, 09:02 AM
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    I guess this is why the "vintage" machines prices are getting higher and higher... I sure wish we could make a machine in the United States!
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    Old 02-05-2012, 09:22 AM
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    Hardly anybody will take used machines on trade anymore. They can't sell them for much, and anyone they sell the used machine to would have been a candidate to have bought a new machine at a higher profit margin.

    And if anyone complains about the profit margin of a sewing machine dealer, consider that your restaurant food costs only about 25-33% of your price. I don't hear anyone complaining horridly about the profit of restaurants though. Buildings, staff, utilities, all the "free" classes, training for staff - there are lots of costs that are not always obvious.

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    Old 02-05-2012, 09:32 AM
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    Originally Posted by CanoePam
    Hardly anybody will take used machines on trade anymore. They can't sell them for much, and anyone they sell the used machine to would have been a candidate to have bought a new machine at a higher profit margin.

    And if anyone complains about the profit margin of a sewing machine dealer, consider that your restaurant food costs only about 25-33% of your price. I don't hear anyone complaining horridly about the profit of restaurants though. Buildings, staff, utilities, all the "free" classes, training for staff - there are lots of costs that are not always obvious.

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    I wasn't complaining about the profit margin of the dealer. My complaint was that anyone that has looked into buying a 7700 knows the going rate is about $2500. My problem was that they wanted to sell me JUST the machine. There are accessories that come with this machine that at other dealers are included in the $2500.

    As for restaurants, you are paying for the convenience of someone else shopping, preparing, serving, and clean up. With the massive amounts of restaurants concentrated in areas, you have a choice as to where you will spend your money. Sewing machine dealers do not even compare to restaurants. I would compare them more to a car dealership but even then, there are many car dealers in a concentrated area.
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    Old 02-05-2012, 10:00 AM
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    WOW. My head is still spinning from reading that article. I have a Bernina and I do love it. I drive past the local dealer on my way to the dealer that I purchased it from 30 minutes away. Why? Because my dealer is nice and helpful. When I take my machine into the shop for servicing I've never had to wait more than 2-3 days to get it back. The local dealer - well let's just say a friend of mine had her machine in the shop for over a month because she 'didn't have an appointment' when her machine quit working! I'm all about the service.
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