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    Steve, I read the "stories" and your comments. I hope they do a followup film and cover others who collect and maintain sewing machines. Perhaps they will do followups if they get enough interest and comments from other parts of the country. I ordered the DVD they were advertising. I want to watch it from the TV, not hunched over a computer screen.

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    I just joined QB today, and have not figured out how to search for anything. I thought I understood from Google that QB had a downloadable stitch wheel for a Pfaff 262. This is my first search, sorry to be a pain.

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    Another good resource is Victorian Sweatshop
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    hi everyone...ive got this modern brand sewing machine. Ive searched enough to think its a Japanese badged model. could someone help me figure out what model it's cloned after and what kind of users manualName:  modern sewing machine.jpg
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    Yes, it's a Japanese machine though it is not really a clone. You don't really need a manual to operate it. The little knob next to the lever is for your stitch length, the lever is for reverse. The knob on the bed in front of the pillar is to raise or lower the feed dogs.

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    Here is another machine like that modern. It would likely be the same inside and it would be used the same. It just has different bling.
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    Notice the bobbins are on the ends. Both will take class 15 bobbins and bobbin cases. Tension is in the front. Stitch length is on the right. Feed dog drop is on the bed. Reverse is a little different but not a big deal. I don't know what they are clones of but they are nice machines.
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    Hi, any suggestions on where to check for more obscure parts for Japanese clones? I am looking for a replacement part for a Morse 4300 Fotomatic. I believe the part is called a feed lifter fork. Mine is broken off. It is on the underside of the machine of course, and connects to one of the shafts and functions to lift the feed dogs. (Right now the feed dogs are down and move back and forth. No up movement at all.)

    (I think the machine is a III but feed dog mechanism looks more like a 4400/IV like this one (look at photo that shows the bottom of machine): http://www.ebay.com/itm/MORSE-FOTOMA...MAAOSwdzVXiGQn

    I have checked Helen Howes but looks like most of her stuff is Singer. I have written to GUy Baker and to Sew Classic. I have also posted on the VintageJapanSewingMachine Yahoo group (and scoured their photos and conversations) but no replies yet. I thank you for your time!

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    First, your machine is not a clone. Your best bet to find that part is from someone who is parting out one of those machines. Ebay is where I would watch.

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    Cari, how do you know it is not a clone? So curious!!
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    Because a 4300 is a dashboard machine. You know, all bright and full of knobs and levers..........
    A clone is a straight stitch machine with the basic body shape of a Singer 15. Like this one-
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    Cari, the machine in your photo is a Japanese 15 clone. But those dash board machines with the tension on front and end load class 15 bobbin and straight stitch only really are clones, just NOT 15 clones. There was a machine made in Germany maybe by Singer that they were patterned after and they are a clone of it and you are right they are NOT a 15 clone. I just can't find the post on VSS. When I do I'll link to it. BTW good machines. The famous pink ATLAS is also the same kind of dashboard clone. Mostly clones were straight stitch.

    There are clones of the Singer 128 and Singer 66 as well. That is why the one with the tension on the end should be called a Japanese 15 or 15 clone or Japanese 15 clone. There may be other machines that were cloned. The 128 and 66 aren't as common. I have one of each so they are out there found in the wild.
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    The German Lotus Singer would be the machine they were patterned after internally.
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    Yes Miriam, but it all depends on how far you want to take the term "clone". I think it's over used. And going back to Annettes' question to me, how do I know a Morse 4300 isn't a clone? It isn't a clone because it's a zig zag fancy dancy dashboard machine.

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    A clone is a replicate of a previously existing entity. There have been plenty of zigzag machines made all over the world that have been replicated by the Japanese. Smart folks, those Japanese. Not all clones are straight stitch mock Singer 15. Engineering is one amazing field. Clones, as far as sewing machines are concerned, cannot be limited to Singer 15 types.

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    The Japanese had just as much to do with the designing of, or engineering of if you will, of the mechanics of sewing machines as anyone else from the 50s on. They took the 15 class system and ran with it. As far as I'm concerned, by the late 50s Japanese machines were being better designed and built than any Singer machine and they only continued to get better. If that weren't true, Janome and Brother wouldn't be where they are today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cari-in-Oly View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, by the late 50s Japanese machines were being better designed and built than any Singer machine and they only continued to get better. If that weren't true, Janome and Brother wouldn't be where they are today.

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    I agree!! If it weren't for an amazing cache I found, my Japanese machines would by far be the bulk of my collection.
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    Besides the Singer 15 class machines referred to as clones, the only other ones I am aware of are the clones, made in Germany, of the Singer 12.
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    I have an Aden's that appears to be a 66 clone.
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    Somewhere I have a clone of a Singer 128 badged Remington. The ones I've seen have a lever for stitch length or maybe reverse, I don't remember what it does but it has been there on the ones that were cloned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    I have an Aden's that appears to be a 66 clone.
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    Looks more like a 201 to me.

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    Just the stitch length. Under the hood it is a 66. I could only wish it was a 201. This machine needed a fair amount of tech work since some things were never set up right. It is from occupied Japan.

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    Made in occupied Japan
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    I forgot about the copies of the Willcox and Gibbs. The Eldredge was a straight copy, as was The New Home.
    There were at least 30 Willcox & Gibbs clones around the world.
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    I had a hard time seeing if this link was on here - it is all about tension
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