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Thread: Kochs Adler Nahmachine Treadle

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    Kochs Adler Nahmachine Treadle

    FYI, Nah translates as sew in German. I am hoping that someone will be able to provide some additional information regarding this sewing machine.

    Somehow I always happen on the oddball sewing machines. Of course, I could not pass on this one. There is no room in my house or garage for another cabinet sewing machine so this one is boarding with my DD.

    This sewing machine is a Kochs Adler treadle sewing machine made in Bielefeld, Germany. I am guessing that it was manufactured in the 1930s. It appears to be a clone of a Singer 128 with some modifications. This is the first treadle sewing machine I have found that has reverse stitching. The lever above the bobbin winder reverses the stitch direction. It did have the bobbin shuttle, but no bobbins. So, I pulled out some of my extra spindle bobbins and the fit perfectly. The last pic shows the shuttle case with the bobbin, It is sticking out in the picture but does drop completely in. Pictures are all before cleaning.

    The cabinet is in fair shape and I will be posting pictures of it when DD gets her camera memory card back. That is another long story.

    Both DD and I did a lot of Internet searching to see if we could find another example of this sewing machine without any luck. I even enlisted the aid of oldest son who lived in Germany for many years and speaks and reads fluent German. He struck out also.
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    This does look like a Singer 128. Interesting that it has a lever for reverse stitching. Thanks for sharing with us.

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    Nice machine. It was fun to study the pictures. Thanks putting your new machine in a post.

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    Hello Caroline, What an interesting machine!

    I've looked on the Needlebar website, and they don't give much on Adler, and there are no photos of this model. It looks as though it is longer than a Singer 128, and it has a couple of nifty German features. Singer never put reverse on long bobbin machines, but the Germans had that one worked out early on. My 1913 Serata treadle has reverse. Also the plate on the bobbin winder will automatically disengage the winder from the balance wheel when the bobbin is full, something Singer machines didn't do.

    Once the machine is all cleaned up and back in its cabinet you will have hours of fun with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muv View Post
    Hello Caroline, What an interesting machine!

    I've looked on the Needlebar website, and they don't give much on Adler, and there are no photos of this model. It looks as though it is longer than a Singer 128, and it has a couple of nifty German features. Singer never put reverse on long bobbin machines, but the Germans had that one worked out early on. My 1913 Serata treadle has reverse. Also the plate on the bobbin winder will automatically disengage the winder from the balance wheel when the bobbin is full, something Singer machines didn't do.

    Once the machine is all cleaned up and back in its cabinet you will have hours of fun with it.
    Thanks Muv for the additional information.
    Sweet Caroline

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    It is a very interesting machine. It looves like Adler may have preceded Singer on a few items! I have never seen a machine with a shuttle bobbin with a reverse lever! Love it!

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    What a lovely machine.

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    Did you ever get pictures of the cabinet up? I'd love to see it. I also noted this head has notches for a treadle belt. Very interesting!!
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    I actually just got a Kochs Adler machine from my mom along with a box of attachments. I'm off to find a cabinet for it. I'm not sure if it's quite proper to use a Singer treadle base for a Kochs Adler machine, but at this point all I want to do is get it up and running for Mom. Interestingly enough Caroline S, Mom lives not far from you in Roy. I also got an old Singer 221 (I believe, has the pot motor on the back along with the cabinet) which Mom is giving to the niece. I'm itching to clean up and restore her 128 handcrank with Egyptian Sphynx decorations on it. I have yet to get working on the Kochs Adler. I'll let you know how it goes!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evelyngrj View Post
    I actually just got a Kochs Adler machine from my mom along with a box of attachments. I'm off to find a cabinet for it. I'm not sure if it's quite proper to use a Singer treadle base for a Kochs Adler machine, but at this point all I want to do is get it up and running for Mom. Interestingly enough Caroline S, Mom lives not far from you in Roy. I also got an old Singer 221 (I believe, has the pot motor on the back along with the cabinet) which Mom is giving to the niece. I'm itching to clean up and restore her 128 handcrank with Egyptian Sphynx decorations on it. I have yet to get working on the Kochs Adler. I'll let you know how it goes!!!
    Nice to meet you Evelyn. The Singer 221 is a the Featherweight machine. You likely have a Singer 201 which are wonderful sewing machines. I would love to see your Kochs-Adler to see if yours is similar to mine. Can you post a picture? Does the Koch-Adler have a manual?? I also have a Singer hand crank in re-furbishing mode, model 28 made in 1902. Yes, a lot of project machines!!!
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    Oops, it's a 101.

    I just checked the serial numbers. Mom's sphynx (sp?) is JA710194. a 28K from 1904. The other one I had mislabled as a feather weight is actually a Singer 101 from 1926. (AB095020) I have a really sad singer 66 (AC577585) from 1929. There's a 128 in a lovely wood case (AK974137) from 1952 that sews like a dream, then another odd one, AJ249442 in a more modern case that shows it's from 1949 and is a model 31. Not sure I have that right. The Koch Adler (97847) is a treadle machine, and I just got a cool treadle base, but it's obviously for some other machine. With one piece of wood altered, I'm quite certain I can retro fit it for the Adler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evelyngrj View Post
    . The other one I had mislabled as a feather weight is actually a Singer 101 from 1926. (AB095020) The Koch Adler (97847) is a treadle machine, and I just got a cool treadle base, but it's obviously for some other machine. With one piece of wood altered, I'm quite certain I can retro fit it for the Adler.
    I have a Singer 101, made in 1931. The 101 was the first Singer machine produce with the potted motor. Definitely a keeper.

    I will ask DD to get me the serial number of my Koch-Adler. Perhaps I can get her to bring the machine and cabinet back to me as she has not done anything with it. I did take the head to my OSMG so he could figure out what needle it takes and he told me that it takes a 15X1.


    http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/serial-numbers/singer-aj-series-serial-numbers.html


    Double check the serial number on the machine that you think is a model 31. According to the above link it is a model 66, another good machine.
    Sweet Caroline

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    Thank you Caroline. Can you tell I'm new at this vintage sewing machine addiction? I'm refining my likes and preferences. I got a treadle cabinet yesterday for $50 and had the girls in the garage with me cleaning it up. Imagine a 10, 7, and 5 year old slopping Old English scratch cover oil everywhere with tooth brushes and cotton balls! We got it looking presentable. Had to take a wire brush to the cast iron to get the layers of dust off. I'm hoping to get vintage machines up and running for each of the children. My youngest is on the extended toddler plan (has an extra chromosome so she gets to enjoy childhood a lot longer) so it isn't as pressing to get her one that works perfectly just yet, but the other two are itching to do crafts that are more complex. I don't want to unleash them on my more delicate modern machine with computerized stitching and button hole attachments etc. These vintage machines are PERFECT! Indestructable. Simple. And it will all go so well with my husband's latest dream car, a Model T touring :-). I've spent more on fabric for a quilt than I have on the 4 machines I now have that are mine (vs adopted to clean up for Mom). I love a hobby that puts us in touch with the values of yesteryear.

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    Evelyn, does your Adler look like mine? I visited the machine yesterday to get the serial number. There is one serial number, 1335254, on the bed behind the piller and another number, 613462, on the back slide plate. It is only a guess to when she was made but am just guessing that it was the 1920s or 1930s. There are no other marks or stamps underneath the bed.
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    I discovered that the treadle cabinet I had gotten is probably for a White. The gentleman who explained it to me said because of the offset treadle it was probably a White. I didn't see the picture of your Adler. By the way, I was just down in that area visiting my Mom. One of these days I would love to meet you!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evelyngrj View Post
    I discovered that the treadle cabinet I had gotten is probably for a White. The gentleman who explained it to me said because of the offset treadle it was probably a White. I didn't see the picture of your Adler. By the way, I was just down in that area visiting my Mom. One of these days I would love to meet you!!!
    Anytime Evelyn. You can visit my herd/hoard of sewing machines too. The girls love visitors! Just send me a PM next time you are down this way.
    Sweet Caroline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evelyngrj View Post
    I discovered that the treadle cabinet I had gotten is probably for a White. The gentleman who explained it to me said because of the offset treadle it was probably a White. I didn't see the picture of your Adler. By the way, I was just down in that area visiting my Mom. One of these days I would love to meet you!!!
    Anytime Evelyn. You can visit my herd/hoard of sewing machines too. The girls love visitors! Just send me a PM next time you are down this way. It will be a good excuse to drag the Adler of of my DD's hands.
    Sweet Caroline

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