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    Hello everyone!

    I haven't been posting much lately, just reading and learning and loving the machine parade! It just gets better with each passing day!! Thanx to everyone for sharing!


    I hope I have't made the information sound as confused as I am. . . but here are my questions for anyone who can help. When I got my Redeye treadle, she wouldn't advance the fabric while stitching. . She would only stitch in place. I was hoping after the cleanup she would improve, but after finishing Billy's tute she looks beautiful, but has the same problem. Since this was my first try at all of this, I have tried different adjustments as I have read info here, when someone else asks other questions that I thought might relate to my problem. One day I was able to get a very small stitch, (it was comparable to about what a 1.5 would be on my computerized electric machines. The stitch was very pretty and consistent but I felt it needed to be just a little bit longer and whatever changes I made, either lost the motion completely or went back to the super short stitch). I'm hoping I have just not got the right combination of settings between the things I have adjusted, or a particular order of adjustments. Is there something specific I need to do? Or could the problem be that my feed dogs are too worn? (But if it's the feed dogs, would I have been able to achieve that tiny stitch momentarily?) With the presser foot down and the needle up, just to see what kind of pressure is there, if I try to slide the fabric under the foot, it slides back and forth freely, or either won't move at all, can't seem to find the in-between constant. Here are the adjustments I have tried changing at different intervals. .:

    1.The position and amount of pressure on the
    presser bar and foot, (using the knob on top, and the
    little screw inside that puts tension on the bar)

    2. How tight the presser foot lifter is.

    3. The stitch regulator knob, which doen't seem to change
    the stitch much for the amount of space it screws in and
    out.

    Do I just need to continue fidgeting with it until I get her to make that tiny little stitch and be happy with that? What is the LONGEST feasible stitch I should expect from her? What other things could I try? Oh, also the belt is not on her, I am just hand wheeling her. . . could THAT be a contributor to the problem? (Though if she was a handcrank would that matter?)

    Thanx in advance, I know there's a lot of knowledge out there. Brenda

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    [quote=luv2learn]Hello everyone!

    I haven't been posting much lately, just reading and learning and loving the machine parade! It just gets better with each passing day!! Thanx to everyone for sharing!

    .....after finishing Billy's tute she looks beautiful, but has the same problem. ....


    Can you direct me to Billy's tute on how to clean up an old machine? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by luv2learn
    Hello everyone!

    I haven't been posting much lately, just reading and learning and loving the machine parade! It just gets better with each passing day!! Thanx to everyone for sharing!


    I hope I have't made the information sound as confused as I am. . . but here are my questions for anyone who can help. When I got my Redeye treadle, she wouldn't advance the fabric while stitching. . She would only stitch in place. I was hoping after the cleanup she would improve, but after finishing Billy's tute she looks beautiful, but has the same problem. Thanx in advance, I know there's a lot of knowledge out there. Brenda
    I think I did that quote reply wrong. Can you direct me to Billy's tute on how to clean up an old machine? thanks!

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    Billy, are you familiar with the SewMor 199B? On line someone acquired one and does not have a manual. Does not know even how to thread it. Can you help? Thanks, Lucy

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    Thanks, Irishrose! I just ordered one. It looks similar. Perhaps it was sold under another name for educational institutions.

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    IT_Nana,

    If at the top of the page you select Search, then in the blank type:

    Cleaning your vintage machine

    You will get all 3 installments of Billy's tute along with a lot of other helpful info on cleaning them.

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    Sherri, what a great find. Great price too. Lucky you!

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    Do any of you vintage sewing machine collectors have a source for Davis long bobbins? I have three but now that I am piecing with it could use more. Thanks Glenn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitzone
    Thought I'd share another project.... 1873 Singer Mother of Pearl - Handcrank. I need some patience or she's going to see Uncle Billy in Bikini Bottom :)

    Judy
    OH please send her to Uncle Billy!! I just want to love her............

    Billy<<<<Who has a super soft spot for MOP 12's

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    Kitzone,

    I would love to trip over a machine that had EITHER inlay, fiddlebase, or handcrank. . . I'd probably die, if I found one like yours with ALL THREE! Congratulations! I'll be looking for the cleaned up version. . . She will be beautiful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krystyna
    I am so excited. Found a fabulous little machine at an estate sale today and it really purrs. Only $30! It's a Taylor Professional Model 834. If anyone knows where I can find a manual I would be grateful.
    That little rascal has a ton of stitches I will say that!! And $30 was a good deal!

    Billy

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    Billy your HC work out great on my old redeye. The decals are almost gone on the thing but she sews great. I just could not part her out for parts and now I am glad I didn't. Glenn

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    Charlee, you referred to a machine as "if its potted". Can you please tell me what that means. Thanks, Lucy

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    Quote Originally Posted by luv2learn
    Here are the adjustments I have tried changing at different intervals. .:

    1.The position and amount of pressure on the
    presser bar and foot, (using the knob on top, and the
    little screw inside that puts tension on the bar)

    2. How tight the presser foot lifter is.

    3. The stitch regulator knob, which doen't seem to change
    the stitch much for the amount of space it screws in and
    out.

    Do I just need to continue fidgeting with it until I get her to make that tiny little stitch and be happy with that? What is the LONGEST feasible stitch I should expect from her? What other things could I try? Oh, also the belt is not on her, I am just hand wheeling her. . . could THAT be a contributor to the problem? (Though if she was a handcrank would that matter?)

    Thanx in advance, I know there's a lot of knowledge out there. Brenda

    Brenda the 66 is the machine I know like the back of my hand and after reading this I would ask if you could take the rear inspection plate off (the round one in back) and look where the stitch regulator screw is and what it operates. There is a square piece that rides in a slide that should be oiled really well. Then make sure the little pin is oiled where the screw tapers down to the regulator.

    Just inspect this area really well and oil the area really good and that might help you out.

    Billy

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    Quote Originally Posted by luce321
    Charlee, you referred to a machine as "if its potted". Can you please tell me what that means. Thanks, Lucy
    Potted motors look like someone stuck a pot on the back of the machine covering the motor. It is attached to the shaft and is the first gear driven motor that Singer offered. You find them on the 15-91 and the 201-2's.

    Billy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn
    Billy your HC work out great on my old redeye. The decals are almost gone on the thing but she sews great. I just could not part her out for parts and now I am glad I didn't. Glenn
    Glenn I am glad to hear you like it so! And dont worry I am like you and I can not let a machine go to the parts farm. To me they are all buildable.

    Billy

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    This is one of the reasons I have so many machines :lol: Glenn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostn51
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitzone
    Thought I'd share another project.... 1873 Singer Mother of Pearl - Handcrank. I need some patience or she's going to see Uncle Billy in Bikini Bottom :)

    Judy
    OH please send her to Uncle Billy!! I just want to love her............

    Billy<<<<Who has a super soft spot for MOP 12's
    You're such a softie. lol. I'm really considering it. I could send her to you and pick her up when we have our VSMS Retreat. Hmmm....what do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishrose
    chergram, on a limited income, you might be find a 301 more easily than a FW. My $60 301A was easier to purchase than a $250+ FW. The FWs are cute and fun to have, but there are working vintage macines better priced. My 1952 Singer 128 was $35. FW owners, I mean your adorable little workhorses no disrespect, they just are not in my budget.

    Bojangles, is the Boye 20X1 a hard needle to find? Is it still in production? I told you I don't know anything. Thank you for all your help. Judy

    I went to the site you gave. It looks like it's not an easy needle to find.
    No the Boye #4 is no longer in production. You can find them on e-bay, but they are pricey. The 20 x 1, I think, you can get if you buy in bulk - not sure, though, if they are actually in production still.

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostn51
    As far as Featherweights go I have yet to give over $100 for one. In fact the last 3 that I bought to keep in my collection (never happened) was bought for less than $30 each. So the cheap deals are out there, but I would opt for a 301 while they are affordable. I have been watching the prices of those jump and they look to be passing the FW soon.

    Billy
    Billy I want you to find me a FW for $30! I have never seen one for under $250, anywhere around here!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathie S.
    I just bought another sewing machine for $40. It is a 1942
    Singer knee peddle. It is in great shape. It is black matte crinkle finish. It is in a portable cabinet with out the key. :cry:
    It is a little noisey but I think it may just need to be oiled. I need a throat plate for it. I have plently of bobbins that will fit, but no plate to cover them. It seems to be clean but have not checked it out yet. Have a wonderful day. Kathie
    Kathie, Is your new SM a Singer or a different manufacturer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishrose
    Kitsone, that will be a gorgeous machine cleaned up. I love the mother of pearl inserts.

    My little Leader came home with me. She is tiny. I have part of a book and it does say 10M-3' 28 Irwin Part of different book says 3M-J '28 Irwin, so I think it must be 1928. I have a huge box of attachments - I may have the ruffler I want, though I'd rather have one for the 301. Two wooden boxes of needles. They are 1/4" longer that a 15x1.

    I hope I can round up some family to bring her in tomorrow. It's hard to hide my new addiction when I need help lifting this one. The kids loaded her face down and it's bugging me. I did pack her with heavy duty bubble wrap inside and a bungee cord and blankets outside. Yes, it fit in my car's trunk without any trouble. Close on the depth, but plenty of space on the ends and side.
    I am so glad that you had room in the trunk and I can't wait to see pictures. Hope your Grandson's team does well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luv2learn
    Hello everyone!

    I haven't been posting much lately, just reading and learning and loving the machine parade! It just gets better with each passing day!! Thanx to everyone for sharing!


    I hope I have't made the information sound as confused as I am. . . but here are my questions for anyone who can help. When I got my Redeye treadle, she wouldn't advance the fabric while stitching. . She would only stitch in place. I was hoping after the cleanup she would improve, but after finishing Billy's tute she looks beautiful, but has the same problem. Since this was my first try at all of this, I have tried different adjustments as I have read info here, when someone else asks other questions that I thought might relate to my problem. One day I was able to get a very small stitch, (it was comparable to about what a 1.5 would be on my computerized electric machines. The stitch was very pretty and consistent but I felt it needed to be just a little bit longer and whatever changes I made, either lost the motion completely or went back to the super short stitch). I'm hoping I have just not got the right combination of settings between the things I have adjusted, or a particular order of adjustments. Is there something specific I need to do? Or could the problem be that my feed dogs are too worn? (But if it's the feed dogs, would I have been able to achieve that tiny stitch momentarily?) With the presser foot down and the needle up, just to see what kind of pressure is there, if I try to slide the fabric under the foot, it slides back and forth freely, or either won't move at all, can't seem to find the in-between constant. Here are the adjustments I have tried changing at different intervals. .:

    1.The position and amount of pressure on the
    presser bar and foot, (using the knob on top, and the
    little screw inside that puts tension on the bar)

    2. How tight the presser foot lifter is.

    3. The stitch regulator knob, which doen't seem to change
    the stitch much for the amount of space it screws in and
    out.

    Do I just need to continue fidgeting with it until I get her to make that tiny little stitch and be happy with that? What is the LONGEST feasible stitch I should expect from her? What other things could I try? Oh, also the belt is not on her, I am just hand wheeling her. . . could THAT be a contributor to the problem? (Though if she was a handcrank would that matter?)

    Thanx in advance, I know there's a lot of knowledge out there. Brenda
    Brenda ~ Could you post a picture of your feed dogs and your SM. It might help.. Have you taken the bobbin out and tried sewing without thread and does this move your fabric through with a better stitch length? I am wondering if it's your bobbin tension causing the short stitches...

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    Kitsone, I had no concerns about the machine fitting in the trunk You could put three bodies in a full size Buick's trunk. The seller was worried yesterday, but she drives a Ford Focus.

    My great grandson's team was not the winnng team today which means they are second in the state in class C. Not bad for a small country school in the farm country East of here.

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    I had the same problem with my Alvah when I got it (and the machine was a grimy mess)! I thought it was all kinds of things. I felt so silly when I fixed it. Hopefully your fix will be as simple.

    Here are some suggestions:
    #1 Clean the area with the feed dogs and be sure all sections of linkage are oiled all the way back to the stitch length adjustment.

    #2 Move the stitch length adjustment to the largest you can get.

    #3 Try again with the fabric, especially a thick set.

    #4 If no difference, slide the adjuster back and and forth to ensure everything is moving.

    #5 Try again.

    Your feed dogs should move fabric regardless if the needle or bobbin have thread. My machine's lower end was dry and full of lint. Cleaning and lubing made a HUGE difference. Umm... Adjusting the stitch length helped too.

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