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    Quote Originally Posted by tomilu
    Anyway I am having fun cleaning it up and hope to have a good picture of the end result soon. I will attempt to send a picture or two today, but cant promise any thing.
    The cabinet looks great! And all the drawer pulls are there!!
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    I agree that is a nice cabinet. I love the look of the drawer pulls-way cool! Thanks for sharing your photo of that pretty cabinet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostn51
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    Has anyone ever seen a 66 red eye with non metallic decals? I am getting very confused by my latest find. Her date is 1919 due to serial #G7175576. She has the back clamp feet (sort of rusty. How do I remove that?) And her decal under the badge is off center, so part of it is under the badge. The badge itself is sort of a copper color, not brass colored. Any input on this one?
    Thats the legit decals and all!!! It looks really nice and that is a Western Electric type of motor popular for a do it yourself conversions offered by the dealers in mail order. Those motors are dangerous as all get out, I know from first hand experience! But it is a neat piece to have!

    Billy
    Did it zap ya or did your hair get caught in it? :lol: :lol: Yeah, the pics of other ones didn't look too safe. I still can't help wanting it! I did this one kind of backwards, too. I started with the chrome and finish before getting the gunk out of it. It really is pristine compared to Helen. Her pics are in the cleaning your machine tutorial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpeters1200
    Is there a website to go to to cross check the serial numbers on the machine? The shop I got it from said 1954, but I just wonder if that's correct.
    I just checked on singer serial numbers off of the singer site. (google 'identify singer sewing machines by serial number'). There are other clickable links on the page, so drag your mouse around the page to find all the stuff. The final result gets you a list of which models were batched/alloted starting on what date.

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    Hi all my wonderful treadle friends...serious question for you...

    I've been looking for a 201 either to treadle or electric. Also been looking for a treadle cabinet without a machine, to put one of my 127's in.

    Here's something I ran across about an hour away from me. Current owner's great grandmother had it in Canada. Has moved around with the family for years. Last move about 15 years ago... was sitting in garage for about 10 years or so. Picture follows. The cabinet, is a parlor/drawing room style I've never seen. Drawers on the RIGHT, fold down leaf on LEFT, yet top opens too? Note that the irons are gone. Cabinet was 'converted to electric' by ggm and made to fit her 201 (pictured sitting on the top). According to current owner, the two panels that are unattached: 1 is the door that swings over the column of drawers, and the other is one of the side panels that has come loose. Glue has unstuck. Current own says that it dates to 1914. I suppose that the cabinet does, but that 201 doesn't.

    Here are my questions. Can anyone identify this cabinet? Is it a singer cabinet? or is it a different manuf.? (I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know if there are any manufacturers marks/labels left on it anywheres). I'm asking, CAUSE my next question is.... how hard would it be to find/source the irons and mechanisms to bring this back to treadle? Assuming of course, that the wood wasn't butchered in the orig. process.

    Next set of questions. That 201 was alloted in 1948. It's not original to the cabinet, machine fits into cabinet now... but I don't know why the machine is shown sitting on top of the cabinet, instead of sitting in it. I'm told that the stitch length level/forward/reverse... will only work if you HOLD it in position while sewing. That the machine will not feed the cloth either forwards or backwards otherwise. ????? Easy fix? Or no? Should I pick this machine up as my 201?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles
    Quote Originally Posted by kwendt
    Hi Nancy.... first off, I'm sorry for your little guy. I love all my animials and when they are not doing well, I do the same thing. Hold them, give a what comfort I can.... I hope things get resolved for him and you.

    On those bobbin's... thank you. For some reason, I didn't think that 1 1/8" was 'long'. My thread tangles a bunch, so I was thinking that maybe the bobbins I had were not the correct ones. It could be the thread or tension. I'll work on the tensions and figure it out. I didn't ever check the S/N actually. lol. I know it's a 127, cause it's full sized, VS2, Sphinx, spoke wheel, but electrified, and has the bobbin ejector. The 27's didn't. So this has got to be the newer 127... It sews slowly... it's not lack of oil or grime, I think it may be the old wiring/pedal. I may just chuck the electric motor all together.
    My 127 does not have the shuttle ejector. I didn't know that the 127 ever had a shuttle ejector? I just sewed the back pocket of a pair of wrangler jeans for my granddaughter back on with my 127 because her little Janome couldn't do the job! I love that 127 -- it is a work horse! Maybe, you should just toss the motor and put in in a treadle -- I love my 127 treadle!

    Nancy

    I have not been in the shop for a few days. My little blue chihuahua, Balto, died Saturday. We were not prepared for that -- he was such a sweet little guy and up until Friday he seemed so healthy! It is hard when you love them so much.
    Nancy, I am so sorry for the loss of your Balto. We can get attached to these little ones. Glenn

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    I was having problems with my 66. The fabric would gather but the tension looked good. I ordered a new foot. That solved the problem it sews wonderful. So far it is my favorite machine. Kathie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathie S.
    I was having problems with my 66. The fabric would gather but the tension looked good. I ordered a new foot. That solved the problem it sews wonderful. So far it is my favorite machine. Kathie
    Kathie I always thought the 66 was the best machine singer ever made. Glenn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathie S.
    I was having problems with my 66. The fabric would gather but the tension looked good. I ordered a new foot. That solved the problem it sews wonderful. So far it is my favorite machine. Kathie
    Kathie I always thought the 66 was the best machine singer ever made. Glenn
    How cool is that. I just folded up my 66, in order to 'open' my 301 and 403. The 15 is still mid clean/rebuild. The 27's are back in the case. I wish I could have them all set up, all the time...and play! Thanks Kathie about bringing up the potential for the foot being an issue. Usually, when I have a problem with a machine, I think it's operator error first off.

    Here's a thought.... on the older, straight stitch Singers, clones, treadles and such; has anyone done a check list of what things to 'check' first when there's a problem? Like a trouble shooting guide? That might be a good sort of document to have, especially for newbies to the old ladies. ???

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    By the way, Glenn.... your refinishing tutorial is great. I relied on that, plus my eyes and past experience in taking down two cabinets and a sewing stool. One cabinet all I did was take the old finish off, re apply new finish. Nice. The other cabinet had what looked to be the scorch mark from a large PAN set on it. Ended up taking it down, lightly sanding the top vaneer and bleaching the stain lighter. Then sanding, then staining the whole piece an antique walnut, pretty dark... to blend it in. Bugger of a thing. But it worked.

    Now I have that badly damaged trapazoid cabinet to deal with. Whoo hoo. This is time consuming but not all that hard. Thanks again!

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    Just saw this on local craigs list. Anybody able to give info as to whether it would be a good buy? thanks

    http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/atq/2367141901.html

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    Kathie I always thought the 66 was the best machine singer ever made. Glenn[/quote]

    Glenn is the 99 as good? I have three 99's and have not tried them. One is a black side, the other is a hand crank and the third is just a regular one(?) I think. Kathie

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeeGirl
    Just saw this on local craigs list. Anybody able to give info as to whether it would be a good buy? thanks

    http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/atq/2367141901.html
    It couldn't hurt to offer $5

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    Here's a thought.... on the older, straight stitch Singers, clones, treadles and such; has anyone done a check list of what things to 'check' first when there's a problem? Like a trouble shooting guide? That might be a good sort of document to have, especially for newbies to the old ladies. ???[/quote]

    As far as a check list I look at it real good - does it move? Is the tension bent? Are the thread guides there? Is the bobbin case there? Is there rust? How much rust? Are all the parts there? Slide plates, etc... How damaged is the paint? Does it chain? Is the stitch regulator working? How much is it? How much do you have to put into it to make it sing? On a zig zag I look to see if it goes back and forth. Does it DO those decorative stitches if it is suppose to? Does the needle hit the hole? Does the needle hit a foot? Does it bring up a bobbin thread? Has it been dropped or thrown through a window? Is it gummed up with oil and not moving? How about the motor? Foot control? Wires? Light? Did someone not figure out how to get it out of a table and break a hinge or break the hinge out of the wood? Are the treadle parts all there? There are probably more questions...


    Or do you mean when there is a problem what do you check? There are all kinds of trouble shooting guides on internet - I have learned a lot that way

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwendt
    By the way, Glenn.... your refinishing tutorial is great. I relied on that, plus my eyes and past experience in taking down two cabinets and a sewing stool. One cabinet all I did was take the old finish off, re apply new finish. Nice. The other cabinet had what looked to be the scorch mark from a large PAN set on it. Ended up taking it down, lightly sanding the top vaneer and bleaching the stain lighter. Then sanding, then staining the whole piece an antique walnut, pretty dark... to blend it in. Bugger of a thing. But it worked.

    Now I have that badly damaged trapazoid cabinet to deal with. Whoo hoo. This is time consuming but not all that hard. Thanks again!
    Great! I am glad you are finding the instructions useful. Let us see some pics of your handy works. Glenn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathie S.
    Kathie I always thought the 66 was the best machine singer ever made. Glenn
    Glenn is the 99 as good? I have three 99's and have not tried them. One is a black side, the other is a hand crank and the third is just a regular one(?) I think. Kathie[/quote]

    I have never had an issue with the 99 they sew just fine but I don"t really use mine much. I just like the 66"s better. Billy can answer this question better than I. I would not turn one down :lol: Glenn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmother23
    http://neworleans.craigslist.org/atq/2365572119.html

    This one just might want to find a cozy home with me. I really like the cabinet. Says it is a singer.....
    That one's definitely not a Singer, but I would grab it in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplefiend
    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmother23
    http://neworleans.craigslist.org/atq/2365572119.html

    This one just might want to find a cozy home with me. I really like the cabinet. Says it is a singer.....
    I don't think its a Singer. The cabinet is like none I've ever seen.
    Very interesting.
    Sharon W.
    White??

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    That particular model, with the square corners is the Model A-1, and was made only in the 70s and 80s, so 1882 would probably be the right date.
    Quote Originally Posted by shelburn
    Hi purplefiend, Love your little machine. it looks similar to mine (except for the beautiful paint job!!! ) I did research on the Smithsonian site and got information on the company. And I called the 800 no. for New Home/Janome.
    Talked with a lady who asked where the machine was made and as far as I can tell, it was made in Orange, Mass.
    Which she said placed it at the year 1882. That seems awfully early to me, but the previous owner got the machine from her mother, and that date would have been in the ballpark of her younger years.
    Anyway I am having fun cleaning it up and hope to have a good picture of the end result soon. I will attempt to send a picture or two today, but cant promise any thing.

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    It's kind of hard to see, but this might be an early parlor cabinet which originally had a coffin top.
    Quote Originally Posted by kwendt
    Hi all my wonderful treadle friends...serious question for you...

    I've been looking for a 201 either to treadle or electric. Also been looking for a treadle cabinet without a machine, to put one of my 127's in.

    Here's something I ran across about an hour away from me. Current owner's great grandmother had it in Canada. Has moved around with the family for years. Last move about 15 years ago... was sitting in garage for about 10 years or so. Picture follows. The cabinet, is a parlor/drawing room style I've never seen. Drawers on the RIGHT, fold down leaf on LEFT, yet top opens too? Note that the irons are gone. Cabinet was 'converted to electric' by ggm and made to fit her 201 (pictured sitting on the top). According to current owner, the two panels that are unattached: 1 is the door that swings over the column of drawers, and the other is one of the side panels that has come loose. Glue has unstuck. Current own says that it dates to 1914. I suppose that the cabinet does, but that 201 doesn't.

    Here are my questions. Can anyone identify this cabinet? Is it a singer cabinet? or is it a different manuf.? (I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know if there are any manufacturers marks/labels left on it anywheres). I'm asking, CAUSE my next question is.... how hard would it be to find/source the irons and mechanisms to bring this back to treadle? Assuming of course, that the wood wasn't butchered in the orig. process.

    Next set of questions. That 201 was alloted in 1948. It's not original to the cabinet, machine fits into cabinet now... but I don't know why the machine is shown sitting on top of the cabinet, instead of sitting in it. I'm told that the stitch length level/forward/reverse... will only work if you HOLD it in position while sewing. That the machine will not feed the cloth either forwards or backwards otherwise. ????? Easy fix? Or no? Should I pick this machine up as my 201?

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    Just read a long line of threads ref the Singer 201. I'm considering one in a fine looking cabinet. Granny thinks it doesn't work. She's 80, and the sole owner. For the $30 they're asking, I think it'll be worth the price, if for nothing more than the cabinet. Looking for words of wisdom when I look at the machine. They, (grandson quoting GM) called it a treadle, when it clearly has a motor, so they obviously are close to clueless. There is nothing ornate in the photos he sent, and no obvious rust. Not sure about a hole in the cabinet - if it is a place to run electric wires or a belt. This jog anyones memory of something similar?
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    wow I would have whip lash getting my wallet out - what a deal!!!! Who cares if it works or not
    That can be fixed!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by olebat
    Just read a long line of threads ref the Singer 201. I'm considering one in a fine looking cabinet. Granny thinks it doesn't work. She's 80, and the sole owner. For the $30 they're asking, I think it'll be worth the price, if for nothing more than the cabinet. Looking for words of wisdom when I look at the machine. They, (grandson quoting GM) called it a treadle, when it clearly has a motor, so they obviously are close to clueless. There is nothing ornate in the photos he sent, and no obvious rust. Not sure about a hole in the cabinet - if it is a place to run electric wires or a belt. This jog anyones memory of something similar?
    GOSH!!!!! JUMP ON IT. Where I'm at, a 201 in good condition is usually $100. That cabinet is almost as much. Yikes.... lol.

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    Question.. are these good deals?

    http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/atq/2306809455.html

    http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/atq/2313157118.html <- looks like it'd require a ton of work

    http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/atq/2318477734.html <- I like the look of this one, but not sure

    http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/app/2358337885.html <- sounds too good to be true (I've never used Craigslist before)

    http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/art/2330144696.html <- I emailed on this one

    Any help is appreciated, I'd like to get a few new ones for relatively cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam
    Here's a thought.... on the older, straight stitch Singers, clones, treadles and such; has anyone done a check list of what things to 'check' first when there's a problem? Like a trouble shooting guide? That might be a good sort of document to have, especially for newbies to the old ladies. ???
    As far as a check list I look at it real good - does it move? Is the tension bent? Are the thread guides there? Is the bobbin case there? Is there rust? How much rust? Are all the parts there? Slide plates, etc... How damaged is the paint? Does it chain? Is the stitch regulator working? How much is it? How much do you have to put into it to make it sing? On a zig zag I look to see if it goes back and forth. Does it DO those decorative stitches if it is suppose to? Does the needle hit the hole? Does the needle hit a foot? Does it bring up a bobbin thread? Has it been dropped or thrown through a window? Is it gummed up with oil and not moving? How about the motor? Foot control? Wires? Light? Did someone not figure out how to get it out of a table and break a hinge or break the hinge out of the wood? Are the treadle parts all there? There are probably more questions...


    Or do you mean when there is a problem what do you check? There are all kinds of trouble shooting guides on internet - I have learned a lot that way[/quote]

    "Has it been dropped or thrown through a window?"
    I like this one the best! lol

    I check for the same things. If the picture looks like it doesn't have plates or they don't show the bobbin or shuttle, I then ask before heading out to see the machine- but even then you don't get a straight answer.

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    GO for that 201-2 in that cabinet. The cabinet alone is worth more.

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