Did anyone else read this in McCall's mag
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Another question:
If these designers and magazines are so gung-ho on controlling YOUR quilt and what you can do with it after YOU make it, that should be clearly stated with each and every pattern in the magazine...
For instance, the aforementioned McCalls - there are patterns in there so why not put the copyright notice right there along with the designers name???? On page 64 is a quilt called "Rosie's Wreaths", designed by Pat Sloan... tells you how to make the quilt, tells you how much of each fabric you need, gives you the patterns - NO WHERE does it say, oh by the way, after you make this quilt you can't show it to anybody or that we are going to keep track of you and your quilt for ever...
On page 34 is a MAPLE LEAF quilt - "designed" by Renee Peterson - You think???? Maple leaf has been around FOREVER...
Same thing for the quilt on page 26, or the pinwheels on page 20 or the Snowballs and 9 patch on page 46 - oh wait, they changed the name to "Swing Dance" - and now they are claiming this oh so traditional quilt design???????????
Frankly the whole thing is getting stupider by the minute.
If somebody comes up with a new, fantastic design (and I've seen some at shows) with a new idea on how to combine colors or something, I can see where they should be credited.
But this taking old standard squares and sticking a quilt in a magazine and then claiming the 'design' is beyond belief.
Especially since the squares used in the quilts I just mentioned are ALL IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN and in the EQ programs AND EQ's copyright info says you can use those squares to your heart's content....
sheesh
If these designers and magazines are so gung-ho on controlling YOUR quilt and what you can do with it after YOU make it, that should be clearly stated with each and every pattern in the magazine...
For instance, the aforementioned McCalls - there are patterns in there so why not put the copyright notice right there along with the designers name???? On page 64 is a quilt called "Rosie's Wreaths", designed by Pat Sloan... tells you how to make the quilt, tells you how much of each fabric you need, gives you the patterns - NO WHERE does it say, oh by the way, after you make this quilt you can't show it to anybody or that we are going to keep track of you and your quilt for ever...
On page 34 is a MAPLE LEAF quilt - "designed" by Renee Peterson - You think???? Maple leaf has been around FOREVER...
Same thing for the quilt on page 26, or the pinwheels on page 20 or the Snowballs and 9 patch on page 46 - oh wait, they changed the name to "Swing Dance" - and now they are claiming this oh so traditional quilt design???????????
Frankly the whole thing is getting stupider by the minute.
If somebody comes up with a new, fantastic design (and I've seen some at shows) with a new idea on how to combine colors or something, I can see where they should be credited.
But this taking old standard squares and sticking a quilt in a magazine and then claiming the 'design' is beyond belief.
Especially since the squares used in the quilts I just mentioned are ALL IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN and in the EQ programs AND EQ's copyright info says you can use those squares to your heart's content....
sheesh
#92
I showed the article to my neighbor, an attorney that use to represent a publishing company. He said why would a magazine that depended on quilt designers and makers want to discourage quilters to not buy or use patterns?
#94
I should be safe then. I never am able to stick to any one pattern. Somehow, I have to change something now matter how much I love the pattern.
I do personally think that in our world of rights we get wayyy too hung up on copyright laws to the enth degree. I do believe there is a purpose and a place for copyrights but like a lot of things, it has been carried too far.
JMO :-D
PS: JJs, I totally agree with you. Like you stated so clearly... I get enough quilting magazines to realize that designers of quilts borrow blocks and put a new twist on it, rename it and now it's theirs? And noone else can make a quilt from it and show it or sell it?
I do personally think that in our world of rights we get wayyy too hung up on copyright laws to the enth degree. I do believe there is a purpose and a place for copyrights but like a lot of things, it has been carried too far.
JMO :-D
PS: JJs, I totally agree with you. Like you stated so clearly... I get enough quilting magazines to realize that designers of quilts borrow blocks and put a new twist on it, rename it and now it's theirs? And noone else can make a quilt from it and show it or sell it?
#95
EQ7 has is a quilt design computer program. It's simple for beginners and advanced enough for pros. I haven't used half the features on it. EQ7 will import any quilt picture and you can trace a block shape or design on the picture and print out a block or shape any size you want. Color it and arrange it in a quilt layout of your choice. You can design any quilt you want. You can do paper piecing block, appliqué, embroidery, quilting designs, kaleidescope, slash and whack, templates, import pictures of your own fabric to use in your designs. The list is endless. It's well worth the money. The EQ website: Do you EQ has tutorial videos and lots are on Facebook and blogs.
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If fabric manufactors are going to license fabric and add restrictions, then why the heck do they even make it and sell it in the first place? They tie everyone's hands and then leave us wondering about the laws(which we can't understand anyway since we are not all rocket scientists) and are at their mercy. Does this mean we have to be looking over our shoulder forever because we used a piece of Disney fabric and made the dog a doggy bed and a friend wants us to make them one?? On ebay, there are so many questionable things going on. People copying DCD's and selling them, copying patterns out of magazines, etc. My friend at the fabric store said that if you buy fabric, then make fat quarters, etc out of it to sell on ebay, that is illegal. Honestly, we need a rule book!
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http://www.reddawn.net/quilt/copylaw.htm
second paragraph, number 5
http://www.electricquilt.com/Support/FAQ/copyright.asp
electric quilt does not claim copyright to anything except software.
http://www.quilt.com/FAQS/CopyrightFAQ.html
try this.
second paragraph, number 5
http://www.electricquilt.com/Support/FAQ/copyright.asp
electric quilt does not claim copyright to anything except software.
http://www.quilt.com/FAQS/CopyrightFAQ.html
try this.
#98
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Originally Posted by JJs
Another question:
If these designers and magazines are so gung-ho on controlling YOUR quilt and what you can do with it after YOU make it, that should be clearly stated with each and every pattern in the magazine...
For instance, the aforementioned McCalls - there are patterns in there so why not put the copyright notice right there along with the designers name???? On page 64 is a quilt called "Rosie's Wreaths", designed by Pat Sloan... tells you how to make the quilt, tells you how much of each fabric you need, gives you the patterns - NO WHERE does it say, oh by the way, after you make this quilt you can't show it to anybody or that we are going to keep track of you and your quilt for ever...
On page 34 is a MAPLE LEAF quilt - "designed" by Renee Peterson - You think???? Maple leaf has been around FOREVER...
Same thing for the quilt on page 26, or the pinwheels on page 20 or the Snowballs and 9 patch on page 46 - oh wait, they changed the name to "Swing Dance" - and now they are claiming this oh so traditional quilt design???????????
Frankly the whole thing is getting stupider by the minute.
If somebody comes up with a new, fantastic design (and I've seen some at shows) with a new idea on how to combine colors or something, I can see where they should be credited.
But this taking old standard squares and sticking a quilt in a magazine and then claiming the 'design' is beyond belief.
Especially since the squares used in the quilts I just mentioned are ALL IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN and in the EQ programs AND EQ's copyright info says you can use those squares to your heart's content....
sheesh
If these designers and magazines are so gung-ho on controlling YOUR quilt and what you can do with it after YOU make it, that should be clearly stated with each and every pattern in the magazine...
For instance, the aforementioned McCalls - there are patterns in there so why not put the copyright notice right there along with the designers name???? On page 64 is a quilt called "Rosie's Wreaths", designed by Pat Sloan... tells you how to make the quilt, tells you how much of each fabric you need, gives you the patterns - NO WHERE does it say, oh by the way, after you make this quilt you can't show it to anybody or that we are going to keep track of you and your quilt for ever...
On page 34 is a MAPLE LEAF quilt - "designed" by Renee Peterson - You think???? Maple leaf has been around FOREVER...
Same thing for the quilt on page 26, or the pinwheels on page 20 or the Snowballs and 9 patch on page 46 - oh wait, they changed the name to "Swing Dance" - and now they are claiming this oh so traditional quilt design???????????
Frankly the whole thing is getting stupider by the minute.
If somebody comes up with a new, fantastic design (and I've seen some at shows) with a new idea on how to combine colors or something, I can see where they should be credited.
But this taking old standard squares and sticking a quilt in a magazine and then claiming the 'design' is beyond belief.
Especially since the squares used in the quilts I just mentioned are ALL IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN and in the EQ programs AND EQ's copyright info says you can use those squares to your heart's content....
sheesh
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So now I have a question about EQ7- do you have to have EQ6 first? the system requirements said you have to have EQ6 before-I forget the rest of what is required from the EQ6 to install EQ7. Does anyone know? If I buy the EQ7 I don't want to have to buy the EQ6 as well-or is this something you have to update every year or so??
#100
I just had a laugh... I sew clothes for my daughter from patterns I purchase. She "displays" them every time she wears them out in public. I didn't get permission from the pattern designer for that. Guess clothing is different?
If we cannot take a pattern, use our own fabric and color interpretations and feel like it is "our" creation when we get to the final project, then I feel like I should be asking microsoft permission every time I show a powerpoint slide show because I used their templates and "patterns" to make the shows, even though all the information is mine. Pattern designers might as well be the owners of my quilts then because I don't have the right to even show them off.
If I paint Donny Dewberry flowers on a shelf, do I need to get her permission to sell the shelf since the flowers were painted by using her book as a resource?
Why on earth would ANYONE ever want to buy a pattern to make something if they could not really call it their own to do with it what they wanted? How incredibly frustrating.
If we cannot take a pattern, use our own fabric and color interpretations and feel like it is "our" creation when we get to the final project, then I feel like I should be asking microsoft permission every time I show a powerpoint slide show because I used their templates and "patterns" to make the shows, even though all the information is mine. Pattern designers might as well be the owners of my quilts then because I don't have the right to even show them off.
If I paint Donny Dewberry flowers on a shelf, do I need to get her permission to sell the shelf since the flowers were painted by using her book as a resource?
Why on earth would ANYONE ever want to buy a pattern to make something if they could not really call it their own to do with it what they wanted? How incredibly frustrating.
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