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Thread: Have you heard that JoAnn's fabric is poorer quality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lfw045 View Post
    "You need to know your fabrics and not be a "quilt snob." Those last 5 words were totally uncalled for. You should really watch that, you know. Let's be nice, that is all I am asking.
    Thanks for pointing that out. I have not seen anyone who prefers LQS fabric calling those who don't names. Seems to be the other way around. Completely uncalled for and rude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countrycousin View Post
    I found a quilt shop in Phenix, Virginia that is a must see for all quilters. They have a huge collection of everything you need to make a quilt. It is called A Thread Runs Through. QUITE A SURPRISE FOR OUR AREA.
    I love that shop!!!!!!!!! I drive over 30 miles just to go there!
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    Gayle, you have fallen victim to fabric snobbery. Some JoAnn's fabric is not very good and some quilt shop fabric is not very good. Three years ago I called several well-known fabric manufacturers' offices to determine whether they sell 2d and 3d runs to WalMart, JoAnn's and other discounters. The answer was a resounding "No." The answer uniformly was that they sell fabric all over the world and they simply cannot risk their reputations and thus their customer base by selling inferior products in mass markets.

    It is possible that when they have a bad run, they might sell it to wholesale discounters, but not to the big stores where people expect to get quality.

    I bought fabric at an LQS away from where I live and that same day dropped into the WalMart there and found exactly the same fabric. People have argued with me that it wasn't the same--but it was--I am an old hand at judging fabric.

    Moreover, all the fabric snobs need to do is think about the fabric our mothers, grandmothers and great grandmothers used for their quilts. Scraps from sewing clothing, worn shirts, skirts that their kids had outgrown, hand-me-downs from the neighborts, feed and flour sacking were all used and some of those quilts are still in use or are in the hands of people who cherish them.

    And--how many posts have you seen that are ecstatic about yard sale/thrift shop finds. It is possible that the manufacturer/designer has his-her name on the selvedge, but is just as likely not and these lucky finders have no reliable idea where that fabric has been since the day it was bought. Nevertheless, the finder is thrilled.

    My mantra is this: Use a little sense! If the fabric feels right to you and it fits your project, I am willing to bet that no one other than you will know its origin unless you tell them. And I am willing also to bet that the project, unless it meets with a catastophic event or is so well loved that it has to laundered every week in hot water and bleach, will last longer than you will. froggyintexas

    Quote Originally Posted by Gayle8675309 View Post
    I was taught by a few quilting friends to never buy fabric from JoAnn's or WalMart for quilting. They say that JoAnn's and WalMart buy "second and third runs" from the manufacturers, therefore the cotton is of poorer quality...lower thread count and less printing quality.

    So I've never purchased fabric from anywhere but quilt shops. But I see that a lot of you purchase fabric at the discount stores.

    Have you ever noticed a difference between quilt store fabric and discount store fabric? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TanyaL View Post
    A "quilt snob" thinks of nothing but quilts. Thin cotton material not suitable for quilts makes wonderful summer clothes and probably was never, ever intended for quilts. Too complain and reject fabric for a use that it is not intended nor suitable for is indeed snobbish.
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    You have to go with your senses (touch, feel, drape) on fabric wherever you buy it. You can get some nice fabric at JoAnn's but you can get crappy fabric there also.

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    I used a lot of Joann's fabric when I first started quilting, but unfortunately some of the colors faded, especially the purples and blues and reds. (Which is extremely disappointing when you spent a lot of time on it.) Occasionally I do buy some of their medium quality fabric if it looks and feels alright, but use it mostly for backing quilts.

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    IMO buy what you like and can afford. To keep your LQS in business, purchase from them as you can. Remember our grandmothers made quilts from feedsacks and they are highly prized today.

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    Perhaps I am mistaken, and if I am I know someone will quickly tell me so, but don't ALL stores, LQS, Joann's, Walmart's, Hobby Lobby, etc. buy from more than one manufacturer? So if one fabric bleeds, all you really know is that the manufacturer of that fabric has unreliable dye in that color in that batch , not that every manufacturer in the store has unreliable dye in that color in every dye batch. Isn't this why we prewash fabric from every store before we invest hours of effort in it?

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    I was talking to a Joann's asst. mgr last weekend, who previously owned her own quilt store. I shared with her the stories I'd heard. What she said was that there was a separate section of what they refer to as the premium fabrics for quilting. I looked at them, trouble is they all have Joann's label on the bolt end. Then she told me about Joann's getting in fabrics from manufacturers that are 2 years old or more ( the designs) so you can sometimes find prints from the likes of Moda, Hoffman, etc. if you can recognize the print or the designer. Those bolts do not have their original manufacturer label, they have a Joann's label. Whether all this is accurate I cannot verify as fact, I just talked to an asst. mgr. who knew plenty about quilting fabrics. Bottom line, I do not ever buy fabric from W-M or Joann's, I learned my lesson the hard way.

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    I have found great fabric and lousy fabric at LQS and Joann's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michellesews View Post
    A lot of us, who live in places like El Paso, Texas, have no other choice! We have Walmart, Joannes and Hobby Lobby, there ARE NO QUILT SHOPS. We can travel to Las Cruces NM but even there, a major quilt shop just went out of business. I purchase online many times and stay with good brands, such and Moda but then you are stuck with shipping as well. If you have quilt shops you can frequent, count yourself very fortunate indeed.
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    There is not even one quilt shop in El Paso ? Wow ... that's kind of surprising for a city that size ... sounds like you all need to get together and open a shop !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honeynga View Post
    I get frustrated, aggravated, exasperated and intimidated by this kind of thread. MY problem is I just don't have the money to buy the "best" fabrics.......I enjoy quilting and am thrilled when I make someout out of a JA's fabric that looks half way decent ! When I think back to our ancestors making quilts they didn't have LQS, JA's, Wm"s, etc...they had to use what they had. If I could I'd buy the finest quality fabric i could fine,but I can't. I'm retired, live on a very limited incom My heart and my gut tell me to do the best that I can with what I have; I really don't care if these quilts last 50 years or not, I make them for the moment, the joy and the joy of sharing them with my loved ones.


    Again, work with what you have available and enjoy it !

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    All of above is so true, work with what you have. Several years ago I attended a seminar by a famous fiber artist-he sell his works for thousands. He buys very inexpensive fabrics-it is his embellishments & creative art that makes the garments worth $$$$.
    I personally know a talented quilt artist-her quilts also sell for thousands & one of her quilts is in the Smithsonian. I know she buys her fabrics at Joann's-especially when there are the big sales.
    Look at the antique quilts in museums-very unlikely that any of those fabrics came from LQS.
    In a perfect world we would all buy only the best but in the meantime we do what we can. I do buy from the LQS sometimes, when I can, when my family has given me a gift certificate for a present or a special sale.
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    I see so many people say the same thing over and over "I can't afford LQS fabric." You are sitting in front of the world's biggest shopping tool. I've paid as little as $3.50 a yard for TOP quality fabric from internet stores and as little as $1 a yard in a LQS!! So be honest. You buy JoAnn's and Wal-Mart fabric because you want to and you're making excuses. Whatever. But don't call people snobs because they can shop smart and buy TOP quality fabric cheaper than you buy the so called cheap stuff.

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    I must be one lucky lady but I have used fabric from both Joanns and Walmart and have never had a problem with fading, bleding, shrinking or anything else. In fact, my favorite fabric is a gorgeous red paisley that I have only found at Walmart and have used successfully in many projects. I actually have found some Moda fabrics that were very thin and didn't work up as well. That's my two cents.

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    I had a bad experience with Joann's but I will Hobby Lobby fabric all day long! Especially since I realized they have the Robert Kaufman Kona. Also my Joann's feels just slightly larger than a bathtub so it is not a pleasant time in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margie13 View Post
    I would rather buy JoAnn's. I never have a problem with it. I decided to go to a quilt store for some material. It is nice but it shreds. And it is more expensive. I like JoAnn's much better. But To Each Their Own.
    I used ot buy a lot of fabric at JoAnn's when we had a store near us....never had a problem with it, and I always prewashed as it was used for clothes for my kids. Now I have to go either 60 miles or over 100 miles, depending which direction I travel. Would I go to JoAnn's again if one would open up nearer here? In a heartbeat! As many others have said, you have to go with your gut feeling when it comes to fabrics!
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    Quote Originally Posted by krabadan View Post
    I must be one lucky lady but I have used fabric from both Joanns and Walmart and have never had a problem with fading, bleding, shrinking or anything else. In fact, my favorite fabric is a gorgeous red paisley that I have only found at Walmart and have used successfully in many projects. I actually have found some Moda fabrics that were very thin and didn't work up as well. That's my two cents.
    Likewise. I made Turning Twenty quilt using only FQs from my LQS...some of those FQs were a little on the thin side and not at all as nice feeling as the majority of the flannels of the others. I've felt the quality of the flannels offered in my local WM and they feel very nice! I'm going back in a few days to get some for receiving blankets. BTW, the fabric dept. in our WM did decrease in size with their remodel, but was phased out of the store. I've noticed more and more fabrics being added recently....nice!
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    I haven't really shopped at Joanne's since they closed their branches to create their super store. Now, they don't really carry as many fabrics but instead have more craft supplies and framing service. I am used to shopping at Fabric Depot which has a huge selection and is largely broken down by quality brand names. I received a Joanne's gift card of $20 so went to spend that last week. They don't carry quilters flannel but have a cheap flannel which I bought a piece of. They only have a selection of off whites in the large backing fabric. I bought a couple of Christmas things on sale but ended up only spending about $7 and that took a while. I did notice they had some fabric that was released several years ago which could come in handy for some people.
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    I agree with you , Amen !!!!!!!

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    Someone posted "I think JoAnn's fabrics was better quality years ago." Yes, true but so was the quality at LQS. That said, I shop for my fabrics by look and feel and buy at Jo's and LQS depending upon the quilt and/or my budget or stash needs.

    Here's an example that shows that you never know where the perfect fabric is waiting for you. My DGranddaughter Elizabeth told me that she was sitting on the orange and cream quilt I made her for her dorm room and her roommate remarked how the fabric in the quilt was just so "Her". That's exactly my reaction when I saw the bolt of soft orange and cream fabric in Joann's. If I didn't stop at Joann's first when looking for fabrics for Elizabeth's quilt I would have never found the perfect fabric for it. May in Jersey

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    Quote Originally Posted by libber View Post
    I was talking to a Joann's asst. mgr last weekend, who previously owned her own quilt store. I shared with her the stories I'd heard. What she said was that there was a separate section of what they refer to as the premium fabrics for quilting. I looked at them, trouble is they all have Joann's label on the bolt end. Then she told me about Joann's getting in fabrics from manufacturers that are 2 years old or more ( the designs) so you can sometimes find prints from the likes of Moda, Hoffman, etc. if you can recognize the print or the designer. Those bolts do not have their original manufacturer label, they have a Joann's label. Whether all this is accurate I cannot verify as fact, I just talked to an asst. mgr. who knew plenty about quilting fabrics. Bottom line, I do not ever buy fabric from W-M or Joann's, I learned my lesson the hard way.
    Well... there's a grain of truth in here but as a whole I think it's not really quite accurate.

    In the novelty fabrics selection of JoAnns, you will find fabrics by Robert Kaufman and Timeless Treasures. Many, if not most, of these are older prints that have been around a while. They're classics, having been reprinted many times over the years. Our Timeless Treasures sales rep told us that TT sells their designs only to quilt shops for the first six months, and after that they may offer those designs to the chain stores.

    As far as I know, only Debbie Mumm designs lines for both the chain stores AND quilt shops. And every time I orderd one of her Quilt Shop lines for our store, I lived to regret it... because customers know that her designs are attractive in all of her lines (chain and LQS ones), and price-wise we cannot compete with the chain stores. So as long as she is still designing chain-store lines I will not order her designs for our shop.

    April Cornell used to design only for Moda, but now she designs premium lines for JoAnns. Fabric designers do not stay with one fabric company forever; they jump ship fairly often. So you will frequently see fabrics at JoAnns with designs that look similar to fabrics you found in a LQS a few years back. That doesn't mean they are actually the same fabrics, though.

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    I don't have many options other than JoAnn's Hobby Lobby and Walmarts. The one sewing shop here has limited fabric. When I travel I try to shop in the quilt shops. I'm careful in picking out fabric at JoAnn's and think my quilts with their fabric look fine.
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    That seems a little unkind. There's nothing worse than slaving over a quilt then have it fall apart because of cheap fabric. It takes time to learn and if you're a beginner you haven't had that time. I went to Joanne's recently and didn't find much quality fabric at least nothing I would risk in a quilt. I wouldn't even want clothing out of it.
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