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    Quote Originally Posted by irishrose View Post
    What if the one rescued last week doesn't float my boat - too modern looking, but it sews decorative stitches very nicely - and has some cams the Elna doesn't have? Do I sell it and get back my $12 + $2 for a belt and ? for grinding off a metal part so the belt could work. It's the late 70s MWards machine - still pretty much a metal machine.

    Yeah, I need an intervention - I'm up to 10 in a little over a year and I'm too old to live long enough to use them all. I think some of my children are getting worried. 8 'new' - I had two. But I'd buy another 301 in a heartbeat. And a decorated e-machine - no more room for treadles. Oh, oh, my name is Judy and I am compulsive overbuyer of sewing machines. The first step is admitting I have a problem. Nah, I don't want to be cured, either.
    Judy, I am with you on the 301! I could be like Candace is with those 301's - get all the colors! I am piecing a Smokey River quilt top with the 301 right now and loving it, even though, I had to rip 24 block sections out because I placed the colors wrong! Oh well, I get to redo the blocks with the 301!

    Anyway, what are 10 machines? I have 50 + now and holding! I just had to make a sewing machine museum in one of my cargo units!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    D,

    The clutch motors that came on the 31-15 and -20 machines are pretty sturdy motors.

    Since it has been sitting for years you can expect a lot of dust in the inner workings. This will
    smell and maybe even smoke lightly when first run.

    Personally the first thing I'd do is to very carefully check the wiring from the wall plug to the off-on switch and from the switch to the motor.
    The motor is probably very dry so will need oil. A drop or two on each end of the main shaft to start. Look for an oil reservoir with wicks, it it has one this needs to be filled and the wicks primed by dripping oiling along their length.
    Then I'd take a paint brush and dust off every part of the motor that I could reach.

    Cathy
    Cathy, I am so glad to hear you talk about the motors on the 31-15's, although, my 31-15 doesn't have a motor, but my 31-20 does. I hope that applies to the 31-20 as well? I haven't had time to clean up either machine because inbetween rain storms, I have been trying to get my annuals all planted and my yard weeded! I haven't even tried to run the 31-20 to see what it does - smoke - don't know yet? I'd really like to convert the 31's back to treadles, but someone lost the pedal on their treadle table when they added the motor! Do you have a pedal that would fit the 31 treadle - I think it is wider than your normal pedal?

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosie99 View Post
    Seeing as those pics worked okay here are the pics of the other 2 machines I picked up on Friday. The singer 128 handcrank just needs the tension adjusted but the Singer 328K seems to have very little power when plugged in. It came with all(I think) the original accessories and manual. It is also oiled to death, oil dripping inside. Now I'll quit hogging the board. Thanks for listening and looking.
    Jackie
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    Jackie, those are really nice machines! The 328 reminds me of a Rocketeer! You were lucky to get the case for the 328 - but, does the case smell yucky? Sometime those cases just reek! I'd sure have picked up both those machines! Very nice LaVincendora decals on the 128 too!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplefiend View Post
    I have a Singer 237, its a simple machine and works well. It uses a 15x1 modern needle and metal class 15 bobbins, needle goes in flat to the right & threads left to right.
    My machine is run by treadle power, it came to me with a stretch motor belt that was too small and ruined the motor; thus it became a treadle machine. It was only $20, nice having a zig zag treadle. It was made in Italy and only offered as a treadle there, has a deep groove in the handwheel; so no modification is required to treadle it.
    I have done FMQ on several baby quilts with this machine, does it very nicely too. You can see my machine here:
    http://good-times.webshots.com/album/578828743YiOtbl
    Sharon W. central Texas
    Sharon, I like your 237 in treadle. It looks like it just slipped right into a treadle with no modifications to the machine - like my 319w - I just popped right into the treadle?

    Nancy

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    Is this the 31-15? They take a 16x231 or DBx1 (also go by other numbers). These needles are the same length as the standard 15x1,
    but are round shank and the shank may be narrower than a 15x1.

    Cathy


    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Before you do ANYTHING take the needle out. Then go find needles to match it. It should be a longer needle than household. Not sure but the sewing machine store will know how to match it. Once you figure out what size needle you have you can order them cheaper on line. I have an old 241 industrial - that motor runs like it is new. It's a hot rod for sure.
    Cathy

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    Nancy,
    The 31-15 and the 31-20 are the same machine except for the bobbin size and related area.
    I'll look for a treadle plate, but I don't think I have one.

    Cathy



    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Cathy, I am so glad to hear you talk about the motors on the 31-15's, although, my 31-15 doesn't have a motor, but my 31-20 does. I hope that applies to the 31-20 as well? I haven't had time to clean up either machine because inbetween rain storms, I have been trying to get my annuals all planted and my yard weeded! I haven't even tried to run the 31-20 to see what it does - smoke - don't know yet? I'd really like to convert the 31's back to treadles, but someone lost the pedal on their treadle table when they added the motor! Do you have a pedal that would fit the 31 treadle - I think it is wider than your normal pedal?

    Nancy
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Sharon, I like your 237 in treadle. It looks like it just slipped right into a treadle with no modifications to the machine - like my 319w - I just popped right into the treadle?

    Nancy
    Nancy,
    My cabinet came without hinge pins or the drip pan; it seemed kinda odd that those things were missing.
    My 237 just dropped in to the treadle, once my son made a new drip pan; I don't know if it would've fit otherwise.
    The the drip pan made was deeper to accommodate the longer legs in the 237's casting. It treadles so smoothly, kinda nice to have a zig zag treadle.
    Sharon

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Jackie, those are really nice machines! The 328 reminds me of a Rocketeer! You were lucky to get the case for the 328 - but, does the case smell yucky? Sometime those cases just reek! I'd sure have picked up both those machines! Very nice LaVincendora decals on the 128 too!

    Nancy
    Thanks Nancy. I was pleased. The case for the 328 is fine , no strong odors. Hopefully I can figure out the power issue. I got all three machines for $160. which I think was a good deal. I'm happy. My next machine is a 301, I hope.
    Jackie

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris_quilts View Post
    Sounds like intervention time if you can't even remember the color of the machine or what you paid for it.
    Slowly say: MY name is __________ and I haven't bought a machine today. But it's still early so help me avoid the temptation. Failing that, let the machine be reasonably priced.
    Love that, Chris!! My DH would be standing up shouting "Amen" if he read it!! LOL He is totally in favor of me NOT buying any more machines. I have another Davis coming, and my sister just gave me a White treadle cabinet/irons that I'll use for one of the machines I already have. So, does that count as 2 or 1?? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Judy, I am with you on the 301! I could be like Candace is with those 301's - get all the colors! I am piecing a Smokey River quilt top with the 301 right now and loving it, even though, I had to rip 24 block sections out because I placed the colors wrong! Oh well, I get to redo the blocks with the 301!

    Anyway, what are 10 machines? I have 50 + now and holding! I just had to make a sewing machine museum in one of my cargo units!

    Nancy
    Nancy, my favorite piecing machine is my 301....she is just so quiet and cute and accurate!!

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    I spy.......
    too bad it's so far...
    http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/atq/2953171398.html
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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    thanks for the link

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    Found this on CL. Eldrege two spool, Rockford, MI., not mine. [email protected]

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    Quote Originally Posted by SewExtremeSeams View Post
    Chris, you ARE funny!
    Thnaks. Still don't wanna visit the padded room with the jacket that lets you hug yourself all day long!
    I meant to behave......but there were too many other options

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    Quote Originally Posted by jljack View Post
    Love that, Chris!! My DH would be standing up shouting "Amen" if he read it!! LOL He is totally in favor of me NOT buying any more machines. I have another Davis coming, and my sister just gave me a White treadle cabinet/irons that I'll use for one of the machines I already have. So, does that count as 2 or 1?? LOL
    First off, it only counts as one machine and thanks for liking the saying. It was just spur of the moment.
    I meant to behave......but there were too many other options

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    miriam, this MW is no wimp - it was made in Japan by Juki with a 1 amp motor just like a 15 has. My 1950s MW has 1.2 amp motor and while my precious Elna that had sewn through layers of belt leather and dozens of jean hems has only .75 amps. The Wards machine will sew jeans, I'm sure.

    My daughter has first refusal on it for my grandson who sews, but it's a lot of machine for a 9 year old. I can see him with the 128.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    Nancy,
    The 31-15 and the 31-20 are the same machine except for the bobbin size and related area.
    I'll look for a treadle plate, but I don't think I have one.

    Cathy
    Ok Cathy, now you've got me worried! My 31-15 looks much older than my 31-20, and the serial number is completely worn off so I don't know its year, but I'm guessing 1910's to 1920's? My 31-20 is from 1925, but in much better shape than the 31-15. Now tell me about the bobbins? What is the difference? As you can tell, I haven't played with either yet!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    Is this the 31-15? They take a 16x231 or DBx1 (also go by other numbers). These needles are the same length as the standard 15x1,
    but are round shank and the shank may be narrower than a 15x1.

    Cathy
    Cathy, when I looked up the needle size this is what I got. The 31-20 uses a 16x87 - the electric machine; but, the treadle uses a 16x73? I bought some 16x87's for my 31-20. Will that work on the 31-15 and are they right for the 31-20?

    Nancy

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    What is recommended as the best brand or type of lubricate for the gears in my machines? I have the right type of oil for the oil spots but want to make sure I use the right stuff for the gears on my machines. My plan is to begin to clean up and lubricate all of my working vintage machines before beginning to get those who don't work... up and working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SewExtremeSeams View Post
    What is recommended as the best brand or type of lubricate for the gears in my machines?......
    I use Tri-Flow grease for the gears and Tri-Flow oil for the rest.

    Shari

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom3 View Post
    I use Tri-Flow grease for the gears and Tri-Flow oil for the rest.

    Shari
    I do too - I have enough machines around to make it worth the expense. Besides that stuff works great.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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    Thanks Mom3 and Miriam. Do you get Tri Flow Grease and Tri Flow Oil products through Sew-Classic?

    Ok, I opened a can of new worms (for me) or should I say a new can of worms!?
    I just oiled my FW. I have been sewing on this machine this past week but when I threaded it today, the tension discs seem to be holding on extra tight to the thread no matter what I adjusted it to. I tried moving the dial all the way to the left and right and pulled on the thread... nothing was loose enough for the thread to flow freely... too much tension. So, with my FW 221 book by Nancy Johnson-Sebro, I unscrewed the screw that held the entire tension assembly and laid the pieces out in order that I took them off. Nothing looks out of the ordinary... not dirty, nothing rusted, etc. Should I oil anything while I am in there? Do I need to do anything special when I put it back together? Nancy doesn’t offer much past how to disassemble and reassemble.

    Yikes! I am glad I took it apart (it's my first time) because now it doesn't seem so scary and I am sure my other machines will need tension attention also. Thanks in advance. You are all so helpful. I learn so much here, often not even commenting. But, oh sew glad you are all here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    I spy.......
    too bad it's so far...
    http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/atq/2953171398.html
    DAVIS alert!!!

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