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    Old 06-12-2011, 06:03 PM
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    Originally Posted by luv2learn
    Hello everyone,

    It's been a long time since I posted, but I have been reading and watching the great machine parade. Now I have a question. . . If looking at 2 Singer 15 machines:

    Condition very good, nothing missing, both worked and were the same price. . . one is a potted motor and one is a belt driven motor, which would be the better choice and why?

    Thanx in advance. Brenda
    Jenny at sewclassic has a real good article on that subject.
    http://blog.sew-classic.com/2008/10/...ne-review.aspx
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    http://blog.sew-classic.com/2008/11/...ne-review.aspx

    A potted motor is gear driven and very strong - a belted machine with the right balance wheel could be converted to treadle.
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    Old 06-12-2011, 06:37 PM
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    Originally Posted by BoJangles
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    Monica, I have been playing with Annie Oakley Two Spools. I can't get her to sew. I know I am not putting that second spool holder in correctly. Does it make a snap sound like a regular bobbin when inserted correctly so you know it is locked?

    Nancy
    Ok I got the Two Spools sewing perfectly, but I still need some advise on that second spool casing. I got it in correctly with the little push in thingy, but I had to use a screw driver to hold the pop in, in. How do you get it loaded correctly?

    Nancy
    Sorry Nancy that I didn't check on you earlier today.

    I went to pick up my 2nd Davis Vertical Feed NVF with motor. I then spent the afternoon taking motor off, cleaning, and treadling with it. This Davis NVF had been sitting on the SF CLs work weeks, around a month. I waited and waited for someone to pick it up, but nah that never happened. So, I called the guy yesterday. The machine was a donation, and the money from selling this machine goes to an after-school program that benefits the handicap. When he told me that, I was like, I'll definitely purchase the machine. He was elated! Started telling me all about the machine and how it works. heehee. I let him talk yesterday, but today when he wanted to show me how it worked I told him I already own one that I treadled. I told him I made quilts with vintage sewing machines. He asked if I would like to teach a class!


    Okay, back to your situation, which really is very simple once you figure out how the pin works. Which is way cool! And very clever of whoever designed the spool can!

    And yes, I wish the spool can had become more popular than the bobbins. Who knows, maybe someone from X sewing machine company will bring that technology back-along with the cute spools.

    I don't have original manual, but a copy. On the page that shows the spool can with the numbers and letter K, figure 10, that is what you first need to look at. The part of letter K, the top part of the pin, is were you need to look. The little knob at top needs to be pushed down (which is what you were doing when getting the can into proper place for sewing). If you take a small flat head screw driver and push that little knob down, you will see a groove for you small screw driver to fit into. That is where you will turn the mechanism for adjusting the pin. With my "Cowboy" that little knob at first didn't want to move down, took some muscles to get it loose.

    On my next page (which should be yours too) is a section called "The Spool Case Lock". Please read that section, which explains the direction to turn the pin for it to sit correctly.

    The turning screw of the pin adjusts the height of the pin for the can to sit in machine.

    I hope that helps you! If not let me know.
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    Old 06-12-2011, 06:46 PM
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    Originally Posted by Launie
    Ummm. well I will figure out this pic thing after dinner....
    I love the decoration on the potted motor cover, that is a really beautiful machine!!

    Billy
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    Old 06-12-2011, 06:47 PM
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    Originally Posted by skaduzy
    I am getting my Gramma's machine from my cousin as soon as I drive to Connecticut to get it. I really want to try to sew with it and saw a place online to order a manual called Relics.
    I have pictures which I will try to send but sure I will be missing some things. I am really excited as I used to sit on her lap as she treadled away on this machine.
    That is a really beautiful machine!! I love it that you know its history, that makes it just that much more valuable to a person. Be sure to write down the history of the machine and keep it in a drawer so that who ever gets the machine will be able to pass it along!

    Billy
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    Old 06-12-2011, 06:53 PM
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    Originally Posted by Nanamoms
    Originally Posted by BoJangles
    Geeze someone rescue this machine! It is far too nice for a 'parts' machine. Look at those La Vincendora decals!

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en

    Nancy
    Do you think it runs at all? I've never done a restoration! I'm a little afraid to tackle it. Love the decals!
    I would turn this cute machine into a HC too!
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    Old 06-12-2011, 07:05 PM
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    Originally Posted by vintagemotif
    Originally Posted by Nanamoms
    Originally Posted by BoJangles
    Geeze someone rescue this machine! It is far too nice for a 'parts' machine. Look at those La Vincendora decals!

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en

    Nancy
    Do you think it runs at all? I've never done a restoration! I'm a little afraid to tackle it. Love the decals!
    I would turn this cute machine into a HC too!
    I turned mine into a Hand Crank and I love it!! The price is right on it too including the shipping!

    Billy
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    Old 06-12-2011, 07:06 PM
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    [quote=BoJangles][quote=vintagemotif]
    Originally Posted by BoJangles

    I oiled Annie Oakley up yesterday. Cleaned out all the lint and dust from sitting in this guys garage for 30 years! Put a new needle in - I have not looked up to see if she uses a regular 15 x 1 needle - I assume she does. I am ready to try to wind a thread spool and try her out today. Monica, anything I should know before I try winding the second spool? Geeze, wouldn't it be nice if we could still buy those little spools of thread - you'd never have to wind the spools. I love the fact that she has no bobbins, just a second spool of thread! I wonder why the Two Spools didn't just take off with the public? Kinda like the Davis Vertical Feed that has no feed dogs - they just didn't get the acceptance to go forward with those machines.

    Nancy
    Yes, It takes 15X1 needles (I only like machines that use the standard needle, 15x1, since I don't wish to hunt for others).

    Nancy, when winding the spool, make sure that the thread comes up from the bottom. Wrap the thread around the spool numerous times and set into the bobbin winder pin with the thread come up from the bottom.

    If you have ever watched Donna Kohler's video on winding the shuttle bobbin, this video could be of help. At the end of the video, she shows how to wind the shuttle bobbin just by hand, bypassing the gadgets on the winder. Well, that is how I wind my shuttle bobbins and the spool for the Two Spools.
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    Old 06-12-2011, 07:11 PM
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    Originally Posted by vintagemotif
    Sorry Nancy that I didn't check on you earlier today.

    I went to pick up my 2nd Davis Vertical Feed NVF with motor. I then spent the afternoon taking motor off, cleaning, and treadling with it. This Davis NVF had been sitting on the SF CLs work weeks, around a month. I waited and waited for someone to pick it up, but nah that never happened. So, I called the guy yesterday. The machine was a donation, and the money from selling this machine goes to an after-school program that benefits the handicap. When he told me that, I was like, I'll definitely purchase the machine. He was elated! Started telling me all about the machine and how it works. heehee. I let him talk yesterday, but today when he wanted to show me how it worked I told him I already own one that I treadled. I told him I made quilts with vintage sewing machines. He asked if I would like to teach a class!

    Okay, back to your situation, which really is very simple once you figure out how the pin works. Which is way cool! And very clever of whoever designed the spool can!

    And yes, I wish the spool can had become more popular than the bobbins. Who knows, maybe someone from X sewing machine company will bring that technology back-along with the cute spools.

    I don't have original manual, but a copy. On the page that shows the spool can with the numbers and letter K, figure 10, that is what you first need to look at. The part of letter K, the top part of the pin, is were you need to look. The little knob at top needs to be pushed down (which is what you were doing when getting the can into proper place for sewing). If you take a small flat head screw driver and push that little knob down, you will see a groove for you small screw driver to fit into. That is where you will turn the mechanism for adjusting the pin. With my "Cowboy" that little knob at first didn't want to move down, took some muscles to get it loose.

    On my next page (which should be yours too) is a section called "The Spool Case Lock". Please read that section, which explains the direction to turn the pin for it to sit correctly.

    The turning screw of the pin adjusts the height of the pin for the can to sit in machine.

    I hope that helps you! If not let me know.
    Geeze Monica, you are sure getting some nice machines! I love my Davis Vertical Feed, but I don't have the New Davis Vertical Feed. Isn't the NVF the one that takes regular 15 x 1 needles? I believe it is. Mine has to take the Davis longs, but I have an ample supply of them now! I am glad you got the machine! Are you going to keep both of them?

    Ok, I do have the original book. I have read and re-read the page you are referring to. Page 8 "The Spool Case Lock" does explain about the little plunger and the screw driver, but my problem is this. "Inserting the Spool Case" Figure 11 says ". . . . . place the spool case on the spindle , then push it down as far as it will go and press it inward with the finger until it locks into place. If it fails to lock, the case is not in the correct position to fit properly. By turning it slightly to the right or left, it can be pushed down so it will lock in proper position."

    Well, I did all that and I can't figure out how to hold that little plunger down and insert the case while keeping the plunger down? I had to hold a screw driver over the plunger to hold it down so the case would lock in. Do you have a problem getting it to lock? Can you do it the way it describes or do you need help? I am not seeing something!
    Are you saying that little plunger should not be stuck up until the case is locked in place? Mine is always out, should it be in? Is that what I am missing?
    Nancy
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    Old 06-12-2011, 07:13 PM
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    Originally Posted by Lostn51
    Wow I really need to get in the shop more often but between the snake bite and trying to keep up with my customers I am hardly on the internet at all.

    I am working on something for me for once. :D I am getting my FC Henderson ready to put on a treadle that I restored several months back. I was a W&W D9 treadle but after making the top for it I am going to mount the machine on the top and then fashion a coffin top for the machine and call it done.

    Billy
    Billy, Glad to see you back in the shop. I hope all is well for not only you, but the rest of your family.
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    Old 06-12-2011, 07:19 PM
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    Originally Posted by luv2learn
    Hello everyone,

    It's been a long time since I posted, but I have been reading and watching the great machine parade. Now I have a question. . . If looking at 2 Singer 15 machines:

    Condition very good, nothing missing, both worked and were the same price. . . one is a potted motor and one is a belt driven motor, which would be the better choice and why?

    Thanx in advance. Brenda
    Brenda if you are not into treadles it really makes no difference. Both are great machines. Myself, I would not want the potted motor as I'd want to be able to remove the motor and make the machine a treadle.

    Nancy
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