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    Glenn has a tutorial on cleaning and restoring the finish on cabinets in the tutorial section. You can see some repairs to veneer in my thread. It's titled something like "Singer model 27 Ella" also, I don't remember the name of it but J Miller has a good thread on a cabinet he restored with a lot of veneer work too.
    If the veneer is loose it's just a matter of working glue under it and gluing it back down. Pieces that are missing can be patched. The patch will show but usually isn't too noticeable. If there's too much gone then sometimes it's better to peel it all up and replace it.
    Your treadle cabinet looks like walnut from here. The other cabinet I can't see very well but there is a very good chance it's mahogany.
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    In my area, there are lots of cabinets (w/out machines) for sale for very little, usually $15 or so. I suppose people didn't need/want/understand the machines, tossed those, and kept the tables to be used as furniture. Imho, unless the cabinet is a genuinely nice piece after a refinish, I'd just buy a "new" one for a low price, hide a few scratches (they all have a few) and be done with it.

    Both of your tables look OK, especially the treadle. The 66 cabinet is one I'd doctor a little to make it look presentable but I wouldn't invest time and effort with a complete refinish unless I really liked it.

    My $0.02.

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    Sarabella,
    The 66 was very likely in the treadle cabinet, I have 2 older 66 machines 1910 and 1916 treadle machines. They sew very nicely. They're not hard to learn to use, just different than you're used to using.
    The 1st photo is the 1910, its in much better condition. 2nd photo is the 1916, the finish is alligatored but still sews well; was lots more work to get it sewing again. They share a "franken" treadle, it has Elgin irons by The Free and a top from a Singer coffin top treadle that had a broken pitman rod.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarabela View Post
    I recently was complaining about my sewing machine being in the shop and not being able to work on my quilting and Halloween costume projects and someone in the main board here suggested I pick up an old vintage machine to have as a backup. I thought, hmm, I have 2 vintage machines in my basement that belonged to my great-grandmother that I had planned to get out when my kids are grown and clean up and have as conversation pieces/ unique furniture. I never thought I could use them for some reason. I brought them upstairs and cleaned them up somewhat. I did a lot of work on the 66 and not so much on the 328K so far. The cabinets need a lot of work. I am going to do some research on how to best restore the cabinets. The treadle cabinet has some veneer missing so I have to learn how to fix that. My guess is that the 66 may have been original to the treadle cabinet although I have the receipt for the 66 which shows that my great grandmother traded in a machine and got $5 credit toward the $95 66 purchased in 1933 (made in 1930) so whatever her original machine was may have been in the cabinet originally. The 66 is currently in a smaller cabinet which may have come with the 328k. I will probably switch them back to the original cabinets after I do some work on them. Does anyone know anything about the cabinet that the 66 is in and what era it may be from? I don't know a lot about wood but it looks to me to maybe be mahogany or at least stained to look like mahogany. I know the 7 drawer cabinet that the 328K is in is quite common and was probably made over a long range of years. Here are before pictures of the machines all dusty down in my basement.

    and cleaned up a bit


    The cabinet that the 66 is currently in looks like one of the generic cabinets from the 60's or so that a lot of the Japanese machines came in. The Japanese "White" machine my mother had was in a cabinet similar to that.

    It is also missing the door on the front.
    Mark

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    Singer 12 MOP 1885

    Just got home with it. I've separated the head from the base and my dad will clean up the latter. Here are a few pics of her now. I'll post a few more after cleaning.


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    Singers: model 12 MOP (1885) Improved Family (1886) 29k58 (1939) 44K11 (1921) 96k41 (1947) 103K (1950) 2 x 201K23 206k11 (1950) 222k (1959) 320k2(1959) 331K4 (1964) 451K145 (1960)
    Pfaff:360 (1959) Necchi Supernova Julia http://tailororfailure.blogspot.com

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    I'm so happy you got that! I think you would be looking long and hard to find another that nice!
    Rodney
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    I'm so happy you got that! I think you would be looking long and hard to find another that nice!
    Rodney
    Me too now. Was pretty nervous about having paid so much for it - I know it was cheap.

    Here's what the head looks like now:



    I've got a lot more where those came from too. She's very photogenic. Actually, she looks much brighter and prettier in real life. I can't believe what a work of art this machine is. I've cleaned and lubricated the mechanism and she's definitely ready to go - very smooth.
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    Singers: model 12 MOP (1885) Improved Family (1886) 29k58 (1939) 44K11 (1921) 96k41 (1947) 103K (1950) 2 x 201K23 206k11 (1950) 222k (1959) 320k2(1959) 331K4 (1964) 451K145 (1960)
    Pfaff:360 (1959) Necchi Supernova Julia http://tailororfailure.blogspot.com

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    that is beautiful... So jealous!

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    The MOP almost looks like an Egyptian key pattern in places. I'm more in awe every time I look at it. It's closer to being jewelry than it is a tool.
    Rodney

    I forgot to ask: What did your wife have to say when you told her? I think mine would forgive me one like that if we had the cash.
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    That is a work of art for sure.
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    Absolutely beautiful.

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    Mouth-dropping open gorgeous! I have a question about the MOP machines as I have never seen one in person. Is there an indention in the metal where the MOP is laid or is it so thin that it is nearly flat and shellacked over?
    QuiltingVagabond aka Kathy

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    My understanding is it was imbedded in the japanning while it was still wet and baked in when they cured the japanning. Then the whole thing was sanded and polished, decals applied (or hand painted depending on manufacturer) and finally shellacked. It was a very labor intensive process. Care to imagine working all day sticking bits of shell into wet paint that stinks like tar? I think the results were worth it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    I forgot to ask: What did your wife have to say when you told her? I think mine would forgive me one like that if we had the cash.
    ...
    My understanding is...
    She was a lot less unhappy when she saw it (I had it cleaned before she got home from work).

    Your understanding of the process matches mine. The MOP is in the Japanning and is baked in.
    The amount of work was (I believe) in the slow sanding process to make it all perfectly smooth.
    Singers: model 12 MOP (1885) Improved Family (1886) 29k58 (1939) 44K11 (1921) 96k41 (1947) 103K (1950) 2 x 201K23 206k11 (1950) 222k (1959) 320k2(1959) 331K4 (1964) 451K145 (1960)
    Pfaff:360 (1959) Necchi Supernova Julia http://tailororfailure.blogspot.com

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    In the day documents show that the average was 20 hours per machine to hand block sand them smooth.

    The process is that you add the MOP first, (we used a drop of paint to stick it down) then japanning was applied, then sand, and sand, and sand, and sand....

    My first attempt I used MOP that was too thick and the paint would not set up that thick effectively, when we tried thinner bits it worked out great. I have a basic black Singer 12 parts head that was given to me because it was sand blasted clean resulting in massive pockmarking and the like. I am working on refinishing it using the MOP process. Pictures will happen once done (and working)

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    Thanks guys for the explanation! No wonder they are so rare!
    QuiltingVagabond aka Kathy

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveH View Post
    I have a basic black Singer 12 parts head that was given to me because it was sand blasted clean resulting in massive pockmarking and the like. I am working on refinishing it using the MOP process. Pictures will happen once done (and working)
    Wow, very exciting project Steve. A brand new MOP Singer 12. Do you have a Japanning oven?
    Singers: model 12 MOP (1885) Improved Family (1886) 29k58 (1939) 44K11 (1921) 96k41 (1947) 103K (1950) 2 x 201K23 206k11 (1950) 222k (1959) 320k2(1959) 331K4 (1964) 451K145 (1960)
    Pfaff:360 (1959) Necchi Supernova Julia http://tailororfailure.blogspot.com

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    That's what I was thinking. Very neat project Steve! I know I want to see it.
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    Could you use a small kiln as a Japanning oven?

    I found this when searching for an answer.
    Handbook of Japanning
    http://jmbh.org/Dremel/Metalwork/Han...0Japanning.pdf
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    I love your new toy.

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    I have the same 201 in the same cabinet. I was SHOCKED to discover how FAST these old potted motor Singer's sew! I love how the top drawer has a rack attached to the inside to hold spools of thread or bobbins, & the bottom drawer has a double layer, or a "hidden" drawer, because there is a shallow wood box that inserts at the front of the drawer, hiding a cubby underneath it! The back of the drawer is tall enough for patterns to stand up!
    Becky

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    I wanted to add mine to this super wonderful collection of IRON LADYS..........if I can figure out how to add them all...
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    Looks like it might be a blackside godzills finish 99.
    Probably quite collectible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchaicArcane View Post
    Looks like it might be a blackside godzills finish 99.
    Probably quite collectible.
    Really, those are collectable??? How come nobody wants it?
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