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Thread: Any Arizona Members? I'm considering a move in that direction!

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    If anyone in AZ would like to give me some heads up on your area and what you love or hate about it. As well as cost of living and types of jobs. Also rental property info.

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    I live on the west side of Phx.
    It is hitting around 100 or more this week and this goes on for months.
    Usually May hits the 90's then it is hot for 6 months till late Oct.
    Overgrowth has ruined Phx. Lots of traffic.
    Eventually water will be a big problem, the lakes that feed Phx are a 65 percent. We have been in a drought for the last 10 yrs.
    Winters are perfect weather. They just go by so fast. Traffic is worst in the winter because a lot of people only live here in the winter months.
    Jobs are ok but wages are lower as AZ is a right to work state.
    Houseing is in a crisis right now so buying a house at this time is good.
    Construction is way down so that job market is bad.
    You have to have a car, Phx is really spread out and public transportation is buses, not good in hot weather.
    Gas hit 3.89 this week at the cheaper stations.
    The best area to live is Cave Creek, it is about 10degrees cooler but it is very expensive to buy there.
    Im not sure about rents now with the housing in such a mess but it was running above 750 for the cheaper apts. You can buy thru auctions real cheap. Lots of forclosures.

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    I have been looking at property over by buckeye and surprise. Do you know anything about the more northern areas! You said jobs are ok but wages are down, does that mean there are plenty of jobs just that they pay min? My husband is a carpenter but is tired of it, he wants to get out of that and build custom cabinets and furniture and toys etc. I want to sew and sell on the internet. So we are thinking with the sale of our house to try and buy as many fixer uppers as possible, I think might be able to manage three if we shop around, and then rent or sell them. sounds like the rental market is ok. May I ask how you get by? I know its hot I lived in LV for three yrs. I really do not like winter much. I also might consider NM. I hear you almost have to know spanish to get a job in Texas. How about AZ? So do you recomend it overall or not at all? :lol:

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    Hi I live in Tucson and have for 25 years.I love it here.It is very hot in the summer,something that takes a few years to get used to,but no tornadoes,hurricanes, earthquakes,and depending on where you move to not a whole lot of snow.It does actually get pretty cold here sometimes in the winter,most people don't realize it,and the summer we have our "monsoon" rains.lots of thunder and lightning and crazy winds,usually starts in July thru August.I do love it here and wouldn't move anywhere else

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    We live on the northern border of AZ with Utah. My husband works for the State of AZ, so I travel a lot with him throughout the state. I have a daughter in Mesa and a son in Sierra Vista (army). I really like AZ. The heat doesn't bother me at all. After living in WY for 30+ years, I am enjoying thawing out! I think that with the price of gas and inflation with food, etc, the economy is rocky in lots of places. From my experience, I sure wouldn't hesitate moving to AZ.

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    I spent 3 yrs. in LV., Loved it and would not have left, except for my daughter, I didn't feel it was the best environment for a teenager.

    But, I always wanted to go back to the desert. And I was actually getting ready to head to AZ when I met my hubby and got all side tracked. I guess it was for the best to end up back in MT temporarily at least as I had the property rented out by an agent, who didn't do a great job of keeping the place up. We are getting ready to tear it down. We could rebuild but, I know I want to get out of Mt. I love summer and MT has beautiful one's. But, I never did enjoy snow and cold and ice and such that comes with it. So I'd really like to get rid of the property and use the $$$ to relocate.

    My Hub's afraid of snakes and I guess he thinks the desert is crawling with them :P . I see myself lounging by a pool and cooking up vats of award winning Green Chili and Margaritas in my beautiful out door kitchen. Which by the way will have been featured on HGTV! :roll: :lol:

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    Buckeye is having a hard time politically. Lots of politicians fired and quiting. Very strange.
    My daughter works for the city of Phx. and this is the first time they have actually had to fire people. Usually in hard times they just have a job freeze.
    My whole family lives in different parts of Phx. One in the Cave Creek area and one in the Deer Valley area, both like where they live very much. Lots of hiking trails for winter months. My son lives in Chandler and likes it there. I live on the far west side, Avondale area. It is the cheapest area and is turning into Mexico very quickly.
    Im not familiar with carpenter work but have a son in law who is a stucco contractor and having a hard time collecting from contractors who owe him for work done.
    Wages have always been lower here, but some jobs pay better than others.
    My daughter works for Swift trucking and the pay is not that good.
    City pay is good but not hiring now.
    Forget about construction it is on the way down. It crashed in the 80's from over building and it is doing the same again.
    I had to move away for ten yrs while going thru hot flashes but have been back since I retired in 2000. I still do not like the heat but put up with it because of the family ties.
    My family has been here since 1958 so have seen a lot of changes.

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    Hey! For those of you near Phoenix, I know a great masseuse in that area! She's awesome with her massages and super cheap as well. She has a small operation and is just starting out with her own business rather than working for someone else.

    She has a variety of services. Her regular massage is $25 for a 30min and $40 for a 60min. Around here, I'd pay $120 for a 45min massage. :shock: She does other types and has several packages available. She also does manicures and pedicures.

    I have her full "menu". If anyone is interested in it, PM me.

    Here is her website with her contact info. www.mygentletouch.com

    Her prices and services really can't be beat. I wish I lived down there, I'd see her every week! :lol:

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    This is very interesting. So I guess if we don't jump on the real estate now it should still be cheap next year? My husband can't make up is mind about the move. We are still planning to tear down the house, But he wants to investigate a loan and rebuild I would go along with that to make the property worth more.
    But I have a very strong desire to go to the desert. And leave the snow behind. Gas prices here are not far behind Az. And from what I can gather the property taxes are almost as high as Seattle.

    I did like the coast for the growing season. And have considered moving back to the area N. of Seattle, We did well there in the construction field But couldn't quite afford to buy. Mostly I guess I'm afraid they are due for a hurricane. My daughter lives over in Bellingham.

    I am investigating NV also. I have not spent much time searching property in Tucson, Lake Havasu or Kingman. Also bullhead City is a thought It's just that the property's are higher and it seems for obvious reasons. But We are planning to work out of the home And Sq Ft. is an issue.

    Oh and how are the utilities $$$ This house has an old furnace and is drafty. We had power bills all winter $250.00 and up. Water is $40.00 month. That's the flat rate but doubles from June first through Aug. I guess AZ isn't the best place to have a lawn. Are pools still allowed around Phoenix? All I need is a pool about the size of a hot tub. Or even an $11.00. plastic pool. Of course I'd need two or three so I wouldn't have to share with two hairy Labs. :D

    I plan on having solar power no matter where we end up But some places are obviously better for that than other's

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    When you find the "perfect" city, try renting a place for a few months to see if the feel of the city is right for you.

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    Solar would be great here, sunshine 99 percent of time.
    Pools are in almost every yard, no problem there.
    Utilities just depend on the size of your house and the pool.
    Two story houses need 2 air conditioners.
    I have a 2 story condo and the upstairs is much warmer than downstairs, and it is a problem. I have year round electric bills set up so it is the same amount every month $75.00. But I live alone and am cautious about lights etc.
    Average I would say is 200 and up per month.

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    There are also swamp coolers. those are cheaper than the air conditioners. My grandmother has one of those along with the ac.

    I have no idea how they work tho. :lol:

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    I just put in A/C last year and honestly my bills are cheaper than when I had a swamp Cooler and much more comfortable.We had fans going all the time probalby 24/7 with the swamp cooler and were miserable.I am also on a budget plan so that I have the same amount for a monthly bill year round,but still I have a 1700 sq foot house big windows and dogs going in and out several times a day,and I would say it is around 74 degrees in here and I only pay $100.00 a month

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    So it is possible to keep it reasonable. And with some solar you might even make money. It's getting so excess solar power can be ran backwards into the grid and you can have credit for less sunny times in some areas or even receive checks from the power Co.

    So does this utility bill include water &/or gas? or electric only?

    We have to do something this summer tho or we will be camping this winter. I don't think it would be so bad. He already built the little cottage and we have all the materials we need just about to build a nice size shop in the back of the lot. He spends all his time outside in his canopy workshop anyway.

    My biggest reason for wanting to go South is physical. I am so sluggish when the sun doesn't shine, I don't even want to take a shower and get dressed. It's so hard to get motivated. But, when the sun peaks out I'm all about going, going and lets go some more. :lol:

    Even tho we house shopped all day yesterday for a modular and are going to get with some finance people next week. I told my husband that I still plan to get to a sunnier climate. It's kinda funny he's the one who doesn't seem to want to hang out at home but getting him to move takes a lot of prodding. :twisted: I just don't want to really settle in until I am in the best location. Then I'll dig in so deep a nuke won't move me :roll:



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    Hey! do any of you do chili cook offs? I used to follow both red and green. I was, I think, the third member when they started the green chili Asso. In LV. But I went to cookoffs in Bullhead City and Lake Havasu while I was in that area.

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    Anaheims?

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    The way the ultilties work are all seperate companies.I think after a year you can ask to be put on a budget plan for the electric,I think the gas too,but I only have the furnace that runs on gas so the only time I have high bills is maybe 3 months,depends how cold the winter is.the water bill unbelievably is the least expensive(go figure) and the city just started charging about 5 years ago for garbage pick up,I guess it use to be free in city limits.But you are right solar power is the way to go,we have on average 350 days of sunshine every year

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    Great, that is the one utility I would figure to be high! So sounds like the coast of living is not so bad compared to the wages. I'm liking it more and more. But it may take awhile to get down there.

    My husband, bless his heart, for some reason I can't figure, just does not want to jump on it. He is so cautious. Funny how life affects a person. I don't think he would have hesitated to jump on it when he was single and conversely, I'm even more willing to get on the road, even tho I did move around I was more cautious when I was single and had a child to support. I figure it's more like looking into my future retirement location. I might become an AZ/MT snow bird. Which would be pretty ideal for us. To have a place up her for summer and a winter residence in sun country. Alot of people do that. I'm in favor of that Idea.

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    Loretta, I believe those are Jalapenos. I usually use a mixture of peppers when I do a batch of green chili. Depending on how much hot your taste buds can handle.

    I like Jalapenos, green Bell Pepper and maybe a small amount of hotter Serrano or Habanero. Those are the most common ones found in grocerey stores. I like the home grown red and yellow too, tho I never did care for those bought at the supermarket. They didn't seem to taste the same.

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    Yep we have quite a few snow birds that come to tucson,alot of them bring their R.V. and park in one of the many places to park them and stay for the winter.so that is always an option

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    My daughter is on the mailing list for forclosures and she just got the latest list. What a difference from 6 months ago. The current list has mostly $1000. starting bids, the last one only had a few. Also heard that few people are bidding against each other. It has hit bottom so now is the time to buy. One of the houses is a few blocks from me, its not the best neighborhood but the house is nice. Someone has broken into the doorway to the garage so no telling what it looks like inside. The auction signs are still out front even though the auction took place 3 days ago.
    It is amazing and I sure wish I had the money to buy up some good houses.

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    Susan, ever think of moving down Interstate Highway 5 to Southern Oregon? It is pretty sunny here most of the time, and in Eastern Oregon, it is sunny and dry for about 10 months a year with about 10" of rain... Roseburg has less wind valocity than any other city in the USA. It is green here, and just enough rain, however, this year it is wetter than I have seen it in the last 18 years. Might get snow one or two days. Being from Everett, WA, the sunny days here are a big treat. At least it stops raining and clears up, not like in Seattle. We are 70-80 miles from Eugene, the coast, and the mountains and about 100 from Medford for good shopping, canping, fishing, etc. Lots of quilting and embroidery groups here. :-) Check us out... Irena

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    So that's what I figured about the prices listed when I went into the forclosure site. Most of them were listing between 2, and 3,000. I figured it wasn't the asking price. It snowed last night and its cold enough that we have some still on the ground. I just want to go.

    I need to make my husband sit down and look at one of the forclosure sites with me. I think he needs inspiration. Tho now we are thinking about getting a home equity loan and building a house then selling. Which would like leave us with twice as much capital to relocate on. I suppose the year extra it will take shouldn't leave us totally out of the running on cheaper real estate. It just means another winter.

    As far as Oregon goes, yes, I have thought about it. But I understand property prices are pretty up there. My cousin just recently sold a house there (I believe it was Eugene). I'd love to hear more. Guess I'll research while I'm at it. :?:

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    I dont have the book so dont know which auction it is but they are starting at $1000, bids.
    That house is still sitting open with signs out front so nobody bid on it at the last auction.
    I know you have to have a cashiers check for $5000 made out to yourself and be pre approved before you can bid.

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    $5000.00 doesn't seem like much of a down payment thou I bought my house with less. If I buy I will probably have cash as I plan to sell my lot and then move. But, like I said the old man is not getting on board. I know I could I could brow beat him. (some people call it something elese :lol: But, I must be careful to make him believe it was all his idea! :twisted: :D You know how men are. Because then if there are any hiccups in the plan, I can blame it all on him. (he, he, he, he!). He is wanting to build a house here and then sell it which would probably mean more money. But also at least two more winters here. He wants to be cautious and take a trip down there to look around first. I'm like, what the heck? times-a-wastin and If I get a new house I know I won't want to move as bad. I think that's his counter attack plan! I should get out my video camera and start recording our process and progress, Maybe I can sell it as the next reality show. :idea:



    I'm hoping we'll hear from his uncle who lives somewhere down there. He is likely to be more inspired if his family gives a recomendation!

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