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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllis nm View Post
    I only use 505 spray or maderia basting with no problems.
    This was the June Taylor spray that I picked up a JoAnn's. I washed the fabrics once and the batting three times after pulling them apart. There are still sections that have this spray on them. So, when they say it washes out, it doesn't. Not a good thing to use on baby quilts either. I can still smell this junk.

    While hand basting last night, I noticed the areas that still had the spray on them; the needle wouldn't glide through easily.

    I have used the 505 spray, but that was back before using vintage machines, and I do recall having sections of the quilting with this similar problem. Back then, I considered it to be my error. Now, I'm thinking it wasn't. I googled loops and skip stitching from spray basting and read that it has happened to others.

    I have been wanting to do one quilt again that was hand quilted, been over 23 years since I hand quilted. This may be my quilt that now gets hand quilted since there are too many sections left with the spray. And I don't feel like machine quilting and then ripping out the sections that have the loops, if they do occur again.

    This could be fun hand quilting it and adding some hand embroidery to the project. So, I'm starting my next year's Christmas project today...and maybe I'll get it done in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    I've been playing the last few days. I didn't really mean to, but it started with trying out some Bar Keeper's Friend on the slide plates. Then I figured I needed something to polish up while watching TV, so off came all the little bits for cleaning. Then I couldn't just put her shiny jewelry in a drawer, so she had to be cleaned up. I've never used a shuttle and long bobbin before, but she sews a nice stitch and it wasn't too hard to do. It will be a while before I get her in the treadle to really try her out.

    Singer 27, dated to 1898.

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    Very nice, Bennett!!! That Barkeepers Friend works great....I decided to try it when I was cleaning my Davis, as my hubby and I had used it on the chrome and other metal on our '62 T-Bird and it worked great. I like how it cleans without scratching anything.

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    Monica, I have really never liked the idea of spray basting...so I have never done it. I got one small quilt from another quilter to be quilted, and she had spray basted it. I had to pull it apart and rinse it out. Not all the spray stuff came out, and I ended up putting fresh batting in it. It just reinforced my decision not to use it. I of course don't need it for quilting on my short arm frame, but for free motion I won't use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    This was the June Taylor spray that I picked up a JoAnn's. I washed the fabrics once and the batting three times after pulling them apart. There are still sections that have this spray on them. So, when they say it washes out, it doesn't. Not a good thing to use on baby quilts either. I can still smell this junk.

    While hand basting last night, I noticed the areas that still had the spray on them; the needle wouldn't glide through easily.

    I have used the 505 spray, but that was back before using vintage machines, and I do recall having sections of the quilting with this similar problem. Back then, I considered it to be my error. Now, I'm thinking it wasn't. I googled loops and skip stitching from spray basting and read that it has happened to others.

    I have been wanting to do one quilt again that was hand quilted, been over 23 years since I hand quilted. This may be my quilt that now gets hand quilted since there are too many sections left with the spray. And I don't feel like machine quilting and then ripping out the sections that have the loops, if they do occur again.

    This could be fun hand quilting it and adding some hand embroidery to the project. So, I'm starting my next year's Christmas project today...and maybe I'll get it done in time.
    I use it on occasion for my machine embroidery and I don't like it at all. I don't hink I would ever use it to Quilt. I think it messes up your machine.
    Life is SEW great!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jljack View Post
    Monica, I have really never liked the idea of spray basting...so I have never done it. I got one small quilt from another quilter to be quilted, and she had spray basted it. I had to pull it apart and rinse it out. Not all the spray stuff came out, and I ended up putting fresh batting in it. It just reinforced my decision not to use it. I of course don't need it for quilting on my short arm frame, but for free motion I won't use it.
    I thought it would wash out since they state it does, but it doesn't. There are sections still tacky...what a mess.
    I hate to throw away the batting since I'm into recycling; so, I'll work with it. Hopefully this smell goes away soon.
    My husband thinks that in a couple of days the glue will dry and the smell will dissipate.

    I doubt this stuff is healthy...and it should never be used on a baby quilt...I'm still coughing from this junk.
    It's hand basting or pin basting from here on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jljack View Post
    Monica, I have really never liked the idea of spray basting...so I have never done it. I got one small quilt from another quilter to be quilted, and she had spray basted it. I had to pull it apart and rinse it out. Not all the spray stuff came out, and I ended up putting fresh batting in it. It just reinforced my decision not to use it. I of course don't need it for quilting on my short arm frame, but for free motion I won't use it.
    I like the 505 spray, but not any of the other brands. I have never had a problem with 505 spray but have heard lots of problems with other brand sprays, especially the June Tailor brand.

    I hope everyone at least tries the 505 spray for a small project. There is a difference and this is a great spray baste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    This was the June Taylor spray that I picked up a JoAnn's. I washed the fabrics once and the batting three times after pulling them apart. There are still sections that have this spray on them. So, when they say it washes out, it doesn't. Not a good thing to use on baby quilts either. I can still smell this junk.

    While hand basting last night, I noticed the areas that still had the spray on them; the needle wouldn't glide through easily.

    I have used the 505 spray, but that was back before using vintage machines, and I do recall having sections of the quilting with this similar problem. Back then, I considered it to be my error. Now, I'm thinking it wasn't. I googled loops and skip stitching from spray basting and read that it has happened to others.

    I have been wanting to do one quilt again that was hand quilted, been over 23 years since I hand quilted. This may be my quilt that now gets hand quilted since there are too many sections left with the spray. And I don't feel like machine quilting and then ripping out the sections that have the loops, if they do occur again.

    This could be fun hand quilting it and adding some hand embroidery to the project. So, I'm starting my next year's Christmas project today...and maybe I'll get it done in time.
    Use a fluffy batting and just tie the quilt
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Use a fluffy batting and just tie the quilt
    Miriam, Too Cute!

    I'm researching hand quilting, crazy quilts, and embroidery work on quilts. I'm noticing numerous folks are doing combinations of machine and hand quilting, and most of the projects are nicely done.

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    Really? I like the idea of combining hand and machine quilting but didn't think anyone did it. I always thought it needed to be one or the other. Nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quilter7x View Post
    Really? I like the idea of combining hand and machine quilting but didn't think anyone did it. I always thought it needed to be one or the other. Nice!
    Yes, Seems the modern quilters and some younger quilters are doing this technique. Anything goes! I'm studying and telling myself to think outside the box. This quilt will have to be all hand quilted, but the next one I make will have to be done with a combination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    This was the June Taylor spray that I picked up a JoAnn's. I washed the fabrics once and the batting three times after pulling them apart. There are still sections that have this spray on them. So, when they say it washes out, it doesn't. Not a good thing to use on baby quilts either. I can still smell this junk.

    While hand basting last night, I noticed the areas that still had the spray on them; the needle wouldn't glide through easily.

    I have used the 505 spray, but that was back before using vintage machines, and I do recall having sections of the quilting with this similar problem. Back then, I considered it to be my error. Now, I'm thinking it wasn't. I googled loops and skip stitching from spray basting and read that it has happened to others.

    I have been wanting to do one quilt again that was hand quilted, been over 23 years since I hand quilted. This may be my quilt that now gets hand quilted since there are too many sections left with the spray. And I don't feel like machine quilting and then ripping out the sections that have the loops, if they do occur again.

    This could be fun hand quilting it and adding some hand embroidery to the project. So, I'm starting my next year's Christmas project today...and maybe I'll get it done in time.
    I don't know if this will help, but on projects with glued-on sequins, I have used a sewing product called Needle Lube, that looks like an eye-drop bottle. I got it several years ago, when my kids were in high school, making majorette outfits. It makes the needle slick and work anyway. It might make your project do-able.
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    I checked the spelling on the bottle in my sewing box, and it is Need-L-Lube. When you google the other spelling, you get other products, but I have some, and that is what it is for.
    Melinda

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    Quote Originally Posted by melinda1962 View Post
    I checked the spelling on the bottle in my sewing box, and it is Need-L-Lube. When you google the other spelling, you get other products, but I have some, and that is what it is for.
    One would think we're talking about cars and not quilts! Never heard of the stuff. Thanks for the info. I learned something new today.

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    http://sewingsupplywarehouse.com/sewersaid.html is the product I found available now that may be what you need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by melinda1962 View Post
    I don't know if this will help, but on projects with glued-on sequins, I have used a sewing product called Needle Lube, that looks like an eye-drop bottle. I got it several years ago, when my kids were in high school, making majorette outfits. It makes the needle slick and work anyway. It might make your project do-able.
    SewersAid sounds like a similar product. It has silicone in it. I've used it for similar projects and when using metallic threads and other threads that have issues.

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    Nothing I did would make that plate budge. I tried every trick in the book; Kroil, heat, a hammer (LOL, not really). Nothing could induce it to come off.

    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    Texas Jan, I was hoping someone else that owns a Singer 9W or Wheeler & Wilson would have come to your rescue by now. My Singer 9W sits behind my Christmas tree right now; so, I can't get to it to inspect it. And I can't recall how or if I removed this plate while cleaning this area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    Texas Jan, I was hoping someone else that owns a Singer 9W or Wheeler & Wilson would have come to your rescue by now. My Singer 9W sits behind my Christmas tree right now; so, I can't get to it to inspect it. And I can't recall how or if I removed this plate while cleaning this area.
    Maybe after Christmas you can take a peek and you will remember what you did. I'm in no hurry, at least, not that big a hurry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsBoats View Post
    Nancy, your cabinet is the #44, the Hollywood. (Mine is the Californian.) I have the rest of this booklet; if you want a pdf, PM me your email and I'll get it to you. Sorry, I'm no help with the hinges and stuff.

    eta: Wow, the print is small! The caption says:

    No. 44 HOLLYWOOD MODEL Easy! Fast! A flick of your finger turns an important piece of furniture into a beautifully complete sewing cabinet.

    Available in Lime Oak, Black Silver Fox, Walnut and Mahogany. Chair is covered with beautiful, easy-to-clean plastic. Two spacious drawers. Removable spool rack, complete with lid support. Hand-rubbed finish.
    Wow, Mrs Boats, thank you, thank you, I will PM you my e-mail as I would definitely like the rest of the book! So my cabinet is for sure for the PFAFF? My Mother's Pfaff 130 fits perfectly in the cabinet, but since we don't have the hinge pins/screws there is nothing to anchor the machine in the cabinet. I got some Singer hinge pins/screws, but they don't fit the cabinet without some kind of modification of the cabinet! I doubt I ever find a Pfaff cabinet to get the screws/hinge pins from! Darn! DH wants me to try and find the original hinge pins/screws before he starts using a drill on my new cabinet!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    What are those hinge holes shaped like - very nice cabinet - i would drive for that one too...
    I am not sure Miriam, they look like they'd be square and they fit underneath the cabinet not on the top like the round Singer hinges. Since we don't have the hinges, I am not really sure - just going by the look of the holes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    I've been playing the last few days. I didn't really mean to, but it started with trying out some Bar Keeper's Friend on the slide plates. Then I figured I needed something to polish up while watching TV, so off came all the little bits for cleaning. Then I couldn't just put her shiny jewelry in a drawer, so she had to be cleaned up. I've never used a shuttle and long bobbin before, but she sews a nice stitch and it wasn't too hard to do. It will be a while before I get her in the treadle to really try her out.

    Singer 27, dated to 1898.

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    Bennett, all I can say is WOW!!!!!!

    Nancy

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    i would clean off the gum with alcohol then use "sewer's aid" on your needle often, it will help a lot.
    I was told we could put sewer’s aid on the felt pad on your tension gauge. You can get this at most fabric stores. You can also put it on your 3 or 4 lines of it on your cone of thread to make it sew better. When I went to Houston the quilt frog was there selling notions. I bought a 32oz jar of silicone.
    They said you could dip your thread in it for better coverage. This is what you can add to your oil. It dries out fast. And it is flammable. I don’t know how it will ship. I also wonder if it should be in a metal can.
    I also ordered a can of silicone spray from Brewers through my dealer to spray thread cones.
    The silicone does not discolor thread of fabric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    I am not sure Miriam, they look like they'd be square and they fit underneath the cabinet not on the top like the round Singer hinges. Since we don't have the hinges, I am not really sure - just going by the look of the holes.

    Nancy
    I bet they kind of have a turn to them or something. Kenmore sewing machine cabinets use those. I was thinking I had a set but now I'm wondering if I gave that cabinet to someone a couple weeks ago. So much junk has come and gone in the last month... I can't keep track. Try looking for a cheap $10 cabinet with the underneath hinges. I'll look at what I have over at the shop. I may have a set in one of the boxes of junk. I KNOW I have the flat ones off a cabinet some Egor couldn't figure out how to get the machine out with out massacring the table.

    Tomorrow poor miserable little Wilbur is getting his tonsils out. You all can pray for him - 2 concerns - that he will come out of anesthesia real well and he so doesn't need to hemorrhage. DD had hers out so I have a pretty good idea how it will go. Some Christmas eh? It was when they could schedule and have all the stars line up. We got him a rocking horse and Christmas is waiting an extra month. DD has a newborn as well as 3 older girls. Grandpa (DH) says we are going to wear our 'Grumpy' shirts and at least show up on Christmas Day with breakfast and stockings for the kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Wow, Mrs Boats, thank you, thank you, I will PM you my e-mail as I would definitely like the rest of the book! So my cabinet is for sure for the PFAFF? My Mother's Pfaff 130 fits perfectly in the cabinet, but since we don't have the hinge pins/screws there is nothing to anchor the machine in the cabinet. I got some Singer hinge pins/screws, but they don't fit the cabinet without some kind of modification of the cabinet! I doubt I ever find a Pfaff cabinet to get the screws/hinge pins from! Darn! DH wants me to try and find the original hinge pins/screws before he starts using a drill on my new cabinet!

    Nancy
    I'll be out this morning, but this afternoon I'll wrestle my 130 out of the cabinet and take pictures of the hinge for you-they're definitely different than the usual Singer hinges. The screw on the botton is just a grub screw, but if I remember right, it's threaded in metric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    I bet they kind of have a turn to them or something. Kenmore sewing machine cabinets use those. I was thinking I had a set but now I'm wondering if I gave that cabinet to someone a couple weeks ago. So much junk has come and gone in the last month... I can't keep track. Try looking for a cheap $10 cabinet with the underneath hinges. I'll look at what I have over at the shop. I may have a set in one of the boxes of junk. I KNOW I have the flat ones off a cabinet some Egor couldn't figure out how to get the machine out with out massacring the table.

    Tomorrow poor miserable little Wilbur is getting his tonsils out. You all can pray for him - 2 concerns - that he will come out of anesthesia real well and he so doesn't need to hemorrhage. DD had hers out so I have a pretty good idea how it will go. Some Christmas eh? It was when they could schedule and have all the stars line up. We got him a rocking horse and Christmas is waiting an extra month. DD has a newborn as well as 3 older girls. Grandpa (DH) says we are going to wear our 'Grumpy' shirts and at least show up on Christmas Day with breakfast and stockings for the kids.
    Geeze, poor little Wilbur he probably won't know the difference if Christmas is the 25 or at a later date, but what about the older kids? I feel for them, this will mess up their Christmas! Miriam, I doubt you have to wait an extra month, both my kids had their tonsils and adnoids (spelling?) out on the same day; and a day later they were sitting up eating popsicles! I bet you guys can have your regular Christmas - little ones bounce back so fast! Anyway, I am glad GM and GP will be there to help!

    Thank you, and I'll know more about what my cabinet for the Pfaff needs when Mrs. Boats sends me her pictures!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsBoats View Post
    I'll be out this morning, but this afternoon I'll wrestle my 130 out of the cabinet and take pictures of the hinge for you-they're definitely different than the usual Singer hinges. The screw on the botton is just a grub screw, but if I remember right, it's threaded in metric.
    Thank you, that would help tremendously as we don't know what the hinge pins/screws look like. My DH is really good at refinishing cabinets, but he is very reluctant to start cutting/drilling on this cabinet. He is afraid he will mess it up - he wants me to get the correct hardware to start with! Geeze!!!! Looking for hardware for a Pfaff cabinet is like looking for a needle in a haystake - at least that is what I am thinking!

    Nancy

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