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    Nancy & Miriam; Thanks for your suggestions. Will call tomorrow to see if bike shop is open for the Triflow.
    FYI: I did pull out one thread already - old, linty and completely gross looking but thankfully not a mummified mouse - found one once in a machine one time.
    Do I take off the handwheel like on a 99? I have done that but needed to replace it so am just curious. You could be be right about it not being fully seated/engaged b/c it turns like nobody's business with out moving anything except the belt. The shaft definitely doesn't move even by hand.
    Also, would the 221 manual have a picture of the gears so I lube them and don't oil them? I've oiled what I see open from the top by the spool pin and under the face place but it hasn't made a lick of difference.
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    Kind of looks like my Minerva. wich was badged as a "dressmaker" although you can still see the Minerva decal under the Dressmaker decal. Minerva was made in Czechoslovakia, looks like a cross between a Necchi and a Pfaff and uses an industrial needle, bobbin, and bobbin case ( all of which I know because Mizkaki told me, not because I'm smart)

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    Nancy,

    You could always send it to J Miller's Home for derelicts and functionally challenged machines ..... .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace View Post
    Nancy, I had thought your friend was going to treadle the 306? You're keeping it?
    Only if I can't get everything to work! I won't let my friend have a machine that's not 100%. If I can't get the needle position lever to work, I will end up keeping it.

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Nancy,

    You could always send it to J Miller's Home for derelicts and functionally challenged machines ..... .

    Joe
    Joe, if the shipping wasn't so much - and, if I felt like packing it correctly - I'd do that! These machines are very heavy as you know! It will just go into my sewing machine museum until I decide what to do with it!

    Thanks Joe!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris_quilts View Post
    Nancy & Miriam; Thanks for your suggestions. Will call tomorrow to see if bike shop is open for the Triflow.
    FYI: I did pull out one thread already - old, linty and completely gross looking but thankfully not a mummified mouse - found one once in a machine one time.
    Do I take off the handwheel like on a 99? I have done that but needed to replace it so am just curious. You could be be right about it not being fully seated/engaged b/c it turns like nobody's business with out moving anything except the belt. The shaft definitely doesn't move even by hand.
    Also, would the 221 manual have a picture of the gears so I lube them and don't oil them? I've oiled what I see open from the top by the spool pin and under the face place but it hasn't made a lick of difference.
    Chris
    Yes, you can take off the hand wheel and make sure that the little gear/washer is seated correctly - or it would not sew, just spin! That little dohicky could even be missing if someone else took the handwheel off and didn't put it back on properly!

    Also, any place you see gears 'teeth,' those need to be lubricated with sewing machine lubricant - not oiled! You may have already taken out some of the dried up lubricant - just replace it with some new lubricant on the teeth! Yes, the 221 manual has a photo of the gears and tells you where to oil and where to lube! A really good book to get is "Featherweight 221 The Perfect Portable by Nancy Johnson-Srebro.

    Nancy

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    Nancy;
    Thanks for the information. I did get it working after taking off the handwheel. I think the washer with the the "teeth" was put on wrong at some point in time. It all spins now and I'm going to find some "see if it works" fabric and take her for a test drive. I will have to get lubricant for the teeth portions and either the Johnson-Srebro book or the one by Dave McCallum. I will also print off the applicable portions of the 221 manual.
    Now if she sews, it'll be great. I'll need to let oil drip out from a few places before using her with good fabric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    Vavava Voom!!! I'd make room for one of those--my favorite color.
    Whoa! I want one of these!! I'd love to have a red machine.

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    Nancy do the oil & heat on that thing while you jiggle it a bit - but do make sure that thing on the bottom of the machine is very clean and re-oiled too - it should slide nice. I have had to oil those buggars from the inside of the machine and the outside - be careful of that belt - no oil on the belt. You also may need to oil it from inside and then lay the machine on it's face or oil it from the outside and lay it on it's back. Then do other angles. You want that Triflow to do the work for you. I have a couple machines that are very well greased - there must be a whole tube on one of them. I think I will tackle that one soon. It is a 15 clone - I can't seem to keep those in the shop - people must like them or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Nancy do the oil & heat on that thing while you jiggle it a bit - but do make sure that thing on the bottom of the machine is very clean and re-oiled too - it should slide nice. I have had to oil those buggars from the inside of the machine and the outside - be careful of that belt - no oil on the belt. You also may need to oil it from inside and then lay the machine on it's face or oil it from the outside and lay it on it's back. Then do other angles. You want that Triflow to do the work for you. I have a couple machines that are very well greased - there must be a whole tube on one of them. I think I will tackle that one soon. It is a 15 clone - I can't seem to keep those in the shop - people must like them or something.
    Ok I have gotten the bight lever to move a 1/4". It is just fozen solid! I know the problem has to be in the bight control because when I do those decorative stitches the machine zig zags just fine. I just can't move the lever that moves the needle right or left to set it right or left! So it is going to soak some more!

    Nancy

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    Ok I did it - or I should say DH did it! It took some brute strength, but the lever to move the needle position now moves freely! That thing was just stuck solid! Once he got it to wiggle, then start to move, he just forced it free! Yippeeeeee! So I can move the needle left, right, middle! I re-did all the decorative stitches just to make sure we didn't break something - everything works as it should except the light! The light works, but when I step on the gas the light completely dims down to nothing. When I stop sewing, the light comes back on? The light doesn't matter as this machine will probably end up in a treadle anyway, but anyone had this issue before? It is like when the motor is running it uses so much power that the light dims completely down.

    Nancy

    Now if I could get my Damascus TSM to sew I'd be set!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Ok I did it - or I should say DH did it! It took some brute strength, but the lever to move the needle position now moves freely! That thing was just stuck solid! Once he got it to wiggle, then start to move, he just forced it free! Yippeeeeee! So I can move the needle left, right, middle! I re-did all the decorative stitches just to make sure we didn't break something - everything works as it should except the light! The light works, but when I step on the gas the light completely dims down to nothing. When I stop sewing, the light comes back on? The light doesn't matter as this machine will probably end up in a treadle anyway, but anyone had this issue before? It is like when the motor is running it uses so much power that the light dims completely down.

    Nancy

    Now if I could get my Damascus TSM to sew I'd be set!
    I'm glad you got it going. I know what you mean about the brute strength - I don't seem to have that either. The 306 twin to yours I have works fine but the plastic on the wires fell off when I got it. I figure it might go on a treadle and use a LED light or something. Maybe it would be good with a motor, I don't know yet. Mine has some smooth finish and some crinkle finish. Kind of a monster. Do you have a good set of disks for yours?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Ok I did it - or I should say DH did it! It took some brute strength, but the lever to move the needle position now moves freely! That thing was just stuck solid! Once he got it to wiggle, then start to move, he just forced it free! Yippeeeeee! So I can move the needle left, right, middle! I re-did all the decorative stitches just to make sure we didn't break something - everything works as it should except the light! The light works, but when I step on the gas the light completely dims down to nothing. When I stop sewing, the light comes back on? The light doesn't matter as this machine will probably end up in a treadle anyway, but anyone had this issue before? It is like when the motor is running it uses so much power that the light dims completely down.

    Nancy

    Now if I could get my Damascus TSM to sew I'd be set!
    This sounds like the problem I had with that 27 treadle. I couldn't get the stitch regulator button to budge... even a little bit. I had to use some blaster and work the knob back and forth for hours. But, it finally started moving and now I can turn it back and forth with ease. I am still amazed at the engineering in these old machines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Ok I did it - or I should say DH did it! It took some brute strength, but the lever to move the needle position now moves freely! That thing was just stuck solid! Once he got it to wiggle, then start to move, he just forced it free! Yippeeeeee! So I can move the needle left, right, middle! I re-did all the decorative stitches just to make sure we didn't break something - everything works as it should except the light! The light works, but when I step on the gas the light completely dims down to nothing. When I stop sewing, the light comes back on? The light doesn't matter as this machine will probably end up in a treadle anyway, but anyone had this issue before? It is like when the motor is running it uses so much power that the light dims completely down.

    Nancy

    Now if I could get my Damascus TSM to sew I'd be set!
    Nancy, I don't know how to explain it but it's wired on the same pin as the motor. You can switch the wire to a different pin and it will stay on fully. What happens is when you hit the gas both the motor and light are drawing from the same spot on the controller. I hope I explained it so you can look at the connector on the machine and see what I'm talking about. My 319 was doing that and I moved the light wiring off the motor wiring and it was fine. There's nothing wrong with your machine or light, it's just the wiring hub is a bit mixed up. You just unscrew the the screws in the connector and move the wire. Then re-screw it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace View Post
    Nancy, I don't know how to explain it but it's wired on the same pin as the motor. You can switch the wire to a different pin and it will stay on fully. What happens is when you hit the gas both the motor and light are drawing from the same spot on the controller. I hope I explained it so you can look at the connector on the machine and see what I'm talking about. My 319 was doing that and I moved the light wiring off the motor wiring and it was fine. There's nothing wrong with your machine or light, it's just the wiring hub is a bit mixed up. You just unscrew the the screws in the connector and move the wire. Then re-screw it.
    Thank you Candace, that is exactly what I figured, but I don't do electricity! I will have to give that job to DH! I think, he is a little tired of this last two machines I got! Anyway, if my friend still wants this machine, I will just remove the light and probably the motor as she wants to put it in a treadle!

    Dan, did you leave the light on your 306 that you have in the treadle? I may put this light on my 319w in treadle, but I don't like the idea that I 'have' to have my 319w near a plug in!

    Nancy

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    Nancy, now how do you think I keep my hair so nice:> Hehe. It's not a scary job, I promise. But, I understand you wanting to pass it on. I deal with rewiring and this stuff a lot, so I'm sort of used to it. I rewired a foot control yesterday and today spent quite a few hours on a vintage Viking. The motor needed some help. Luckily, no soldering gun needed this time!

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    Nancy

    Now if I could get my Damascus TSM to sew I'd be set![/QUOTE]

    Nancy, you need to save something for Ray's Class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathie S. View Post
    Nancy

    Now if I could get my Damascus TSM to sew I'd be set!
    Nancy, you need to save something for Ray's Class.[/QUOTE]

    Yup she is right - I think I must have taken 40 machines - we worked on them all. Everybody but me ran out of some to work on. Most people did not take enough machines. I wish I had taken more plastic machines.

    Here is another blog you can follow http://mysewingmachineaddiction.blog...max-results=50 I think she has also been to Ray's class
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Nancy, you need to save something for Ray's Class.

    Yup she is right - I think I must have taken 40 machines - we worked on them all. Everybody but me ran out of some to work on. Most people did not take enough machines. I wish I had taken more plastic machines.

    Here is another blog you can follow http://mysewingmachineaddiction.blog...max-results=50 I think she has also been to Ray's class

    Miriam, I can't imagine taking 40 machines anywhere! Wow, what a dedicated person you are! Are you making repairing/re-selling vintage machines a business? I have a lot of admiration for you!

    Kathie and Miriam, I probably will not take Ray's class this time. My aunt, who lives in Redmond, WA, was scheduled to come for a visit the first couple weeks in June. Well, she had to re-schedule her visit for the first 2 weeks in September - when Ray was suppose to hold a class after Cathy's TOGA, - which lets me out. Anyway, I had already decided I probably wouldn't take the class after I found out how expensive it is! I am doing this for fun and really can't justify almost $700 for a repair class, just for my 'hobby.' I am sure, I'd love the class, but I have to really think about whether I will ever spend that kind of money for my addiction!

    Nancy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace View Post
    Nancy, now how do you think I keep my hair so nice:> Hehe. It's not a scary job, I promise. But, I understand you wanting to pass it on. I deal with rewiring and this stuff a lot, so I'm sort of used to it. I rewired a foot control yesterday and today spent quite a few hours on a vintage Viking. The motor needed some help. Luckily, no soldering gun needed this time!
    Candace, you look like such a pretty, petite little lady that it is really hard to picture you with a soldering gun, re-wiring anything! I can't keep up with you! I mean some people would say I am tough - I ride and train horses! I am not afraid to do hard physical labor out side either, but I draw the line at doing some things! I really need to step outside my box and I have with the mechanics of these old machines - I just think the electrical stuff belongs in my hubby's basket! You go girl! What don't you attempt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    Nancy,

    If this were the 60s, I would just burn my bra. I read a couple of blogs where some gals in their twenties made their own bras that were not padded. They have only known padded bras (from 90s on), and they were very much surprised at the comfort of the non padded bras that they made.

    You now have 50 machines! Wow! I have stopped collecting for now, and my focus is on sewing projects.

    Heck, I wish I lived closer to all here since I enjoy seeing other folks projects and finds!
    How can you 'stop collecting?' I can't, I promise myself I will not look at Craigslist - then someone else does it for me - LIKE CANDACE - and there I go running to grab another machine! I am so addicted it is pathethic! On top of that addiction, I have a terrible time parting with the ones I get - I LOVE them all! Geeze, I love getting something 'different' like the 306w - then I want to keep it! I will let this one go to my GF, though, if she wants it!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    I'm glad you got it going. I know what you mean about the brute strength - I don't seem to have that either. The 306 twin to yours I have works fine but the plastic on the wires fell off when I got it. I figure it might go on a treadle and use a LED light or something. Maybe it would be good with a motor, I don't know yet. Mine has some smooth finish and some crinkle finish. Kind of a monster. Do you have a good set of disks for yours?
    Yes, Miriam I have the original 6 cams, plus the one that came on the machine. These 306's were originally sold with a small box of 6 cams. Did you read the book, where it says don't sew without a cam? The old question pops up again!!!!! My 306 is probably exactly like yours, most of it is crinkle, some of it is smooth. I like the machine, but I don't need it! I have my 319w, a 401a, and 503a that all do the same thing this one does!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    How can you 'stop collecting?' I can't, I promise myself I will not look at Craigslist - then someone else does it for me - LIKE CANDACE - and there I go running to grab another machine! I am so addicted it is pathethic! On top of that addiction, I have a terrible time parting with the ones I get - I LOVE them all! Geeze, I love getting something 'different' like the 306w - then I want to keep it! I will let this one go to my GF, though, if she wants it!

    Nancy
    Hey, I met a gal in church who is worse than I am! She has over 250 toy sewing machines, and over 50 vintage regular machines!

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    Hehe. Yes, I'm enabler. Well, Nancy, a lot of people have told me I should have been born a man. I built a 18 x 16' greenhouse a few years back and my hubby just shook his head. I had no directions from a 10 year old kit. I put my noodle on it and did it pretty much all by myself, except I did hire an electrician and have a friend help me pour the concrete block footers. And I built a 15 ft. redwood pergola on the side of the house with help from my MIL. You should have see the looks we got from people driving by, watching two smallish women heft redwood around and putting in concrete piers. I had a few people ask me "Why my husband isn't doing it or where's my husband?" Too funny:> I've always tackled this kind of stuff.

    I know how you get attached. I sold a machine last week and I'm selling another today. I bought a vintage Viking on Fri. that I've spent at least 8 hours working on that is now going to be a fantastic machine. It had 3 stuck dials and I had to rebuild the internal buttonholer mechanism. Also the motor wiring needed help. The machine only sewed in reverse when I got it. I received a lot of help from someone who walked me through some of the tricky steps. I said a lot of cuss words and ended up with bloody knuckles. But, in the end I learned the problems of a different brand-and this machine seemed to have all the problems vintage Vikings are known for! I can't keep them all so I try to let on go if I keep one. Or at least, that's what I tell myself!

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