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Thread: Vintage Sewing Machine Shop.....Come on in and sit a spell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    It's a conspiracy! They are probably holed up with all those missing socks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nurseknitsLaura View Post
    OK, think I found the wiring problem. On the back is a plastic contact point that fits a cord. The picture is with the cord removed. The contacts pierce the cord when the cover is screwed down tight. Only two of the contacts were touching the cord. I'm sure that the third is not a spare. So, I just have to figure out which way the cord goes in. Does anyone have a Necchi BU that they could look on the back of and tell me if the cord exits left or right? Laura
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    There is a Necchi on CL in Indianapolis - email the guy and ask for a rear picture... LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Explain????
    The Sew Handy you had posted about was in a fire. http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem...temID=12783532
    I had one for sale for a while in excellent condition. I did finally sell it. This was the one I had. No burn marks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    Miz Johnny!!! You're back! Been a long time.
    Yep. Finally got enough done around here that I can once again play around, although I'm still not messing with the machines. I figure that after Easter, I can haul one or two into the sunroom and see where I need to start. For those of you out there with a house full of machines, I do NOT recommend moving.
    Right now, I'm trying to figure out just where I can put the industrial treadle that I have in storage. It's been there since I bought it, and I'm thinking about doing some upholstery. Thought it would be a really cool machine to use for that!!

    Re: the BU, I have one, but removed all of the wiring, etc. and put it in a treadle. Necchi will fit in a Singer base, and they make an AWESOME machine!!
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    Well, I'm going to need a wiring diagram for the Necchi BU. I'll go ask on the Necchi yahoo group. I've had to reset the circuit breakers twice, and the rest of the house is getting a little shrill about the electrics going off and on. Darn kids. .Wish I had room for another treadle and I could put it in on like MizJohnny suggests. But chances are this will be a catch and release, so i need to figure out the wiring. Cathy, do you have any hints for me?(Besides stop messing with things you don't understand, cause then I'd basically have to stop doing everything!) Laura

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant15clone View Post
    The Sew Handy you had posted about was in a fire. http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem...temID=12783532
    I had one for sale for a while in excellent condition. I did finally sell it. This was the one I had. No burn marks!
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    That is super cute. I usually don't care about toy machines too much- I mean I've been able to resist so far- but that little sewhandy that looks like a 401 is supper cute. Laura

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    Laura,

    I won't tell you to stop. IF I did I wouldn't have any reason to come over anymore. You wouldn't need rescuing anymore.

    On a more serious note I am trying to make up a diagram for you. I'm just waiting for my phone/ camera to recharge. It died while I was taking pictures.


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    Well, I'm going to need a wiring diagram for the Necchi BU. I'll go ask on the Necchi yahoo group. I've had to reset the circuit breakers twice, and the rest of the house is getting a little shrill about the electrics going off and on. Darn kids. .Wish I had room for another treadle and I could put it in on like MizJohnny suggests. But chances are this will be a catch and release, so i need to figure out the wiring. Cathy, do you have any hints for me?(Besides stop messing with things you don't understand, cause then I'd basically have to stop doing everything!) Laura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    Laura,

    I won't tell you to stop. IF I did I wouldn't have any reason to come over anymore. You wouldn't need rescuing anymore.

    On a more serious note I am trying to make up a diagram for you. I'm just waiting for my phone/ camera to recharge. It died while I was taking pictures.


    Cathy
    Why don't we just plan a chipoltles/rescue visit? This machine is frustrating me because everything is all tucked in and hard to trace. A nice normal machine I can deal with. This one with everything in the box on the back ( the box is also the motor mount) this one is giving me fits. It is a pretty green, though. And I have heard such nice things about the BU. Laura

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    Maybe next Friday will work? OH joy! you get to solder again. <VBG>

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    Quote Originally Posted by nurseknitsLaura View Post
    Why don't we just plan a chipoltles/rescue visit? This machine is frustrating me because everything is all tucked in and hard to trace. A nice normal machine I can deal with. This one with everything in the box on the back ( the box is also the motor mount) this one is giving me fits. It is a pretty green, though. And I have heard such nice things about the BU. Laura
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    I just aquired a Husquavarna Viking, from the fifties is my best guess. It has an army green crinkle factory finish and rounded design like the old Singers, unlike the squared ones that came later. Can anyone direct me to a thread about Vikings? I have no manual but know my way around these older machines. Will anything take the grime off a crinkle finish? Any ideas about how to date it? Serial Number C331917, Manufactured in Sweden. Maybe by the time I get him cleaned up, I'll learn to post pictures here. His name is Luden, written on the bottom of the drawer was Little Luden. Just occurred to me Luden might be a girls name in Sweden. Blush
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    Knobs rant - don't read this if you like have all working knob - ARGH knobs...
    I'm betting every Kenmore I've seen in the last 2 years has had at least one stuck knob if not all. Some stick so the knob doesn't move. Some stick so the knob moves but they don't activate reverse. Some knobs don't have a place to park the set screw so it turns freely on the stuck shaft. Some do move. Some turn part way some actually work after a bit of coaxing. Some might work if there was any access to the stupid part it turns way in the bowels of the machine. Some sweet day I may just line them up in the back yard and threaten them with a fire breathing torch or at least a hairdryer. OOPS... Seems like some of those knobs are plastic. Some have no set screw to remove the knobs. There is access behind and under on a very small portion of Kenmore knobs. KNOBS... Guess what I was doing today.
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    WORK LIGHT
    We spent the evening looking for a work light at 3 box stores. I have a stupid LED light I sort of have a love hate thing going with it. The light is fine when it works. It goes out at whim though. Some times if I move the cord it works some times I have to stay busy with the cord a while and it works. The lamp has a clamp on one end and some good light on the other. It is almost long enough most of the time. Anyway in my search for a perfect light, I went to 3 stores and eliminated most of the illuminationers. I don't have air conditioning so I don't want halogen light. But those weren't all that flexible anyway. I want something I don't have to hold and is easy to position. I came up blank. I saw a desk light that sort of might work but it only takes a 40 watt bulb. There are some cool lights out there but not what I wanted. At this point I'm thinking I might have to do some kind of redneck thing with duct tape and a stick... clothes line and a clamp light on a hook from somewhere? I have a few really cool flash lights but they do keep one hand busy - I need both hands to do much. Somewhere, I have an old work light that clamps on the table and swings around and adjusts - about the time I get busy it droops - that's why it is somewhere.... DH suggested I need a head light. I'm not to vane for it, but I'm betting I would have about as much luck getting that aimed as the stupid light that keeps going out. What do you use???
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    You're telling me that if I ever get my 1961 Kenmore dug out that at least one of her knobs will stick. I'd settle for that if she'd hold a tension - that's why she was retired in 1973. Okay, got it.

    How about a rechargeable work light? The one I bought my son is super bright.
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    I'm to the point I just take the tensions apart whether they need it or not, clean and re-assemble. I had one on a clone today - someone sprung the spring at an odd angle so I had to swap it out. At least there is access to tensions most of the time.

    That same machine drove me crazy - I got things cleaned up - re did the tension then thought I would test it out. YIKES. That machine screams and belches smoke. The noise is coming from the nose end. I oiled and oiled. The motor is good - no smoke or screaming there. I ran the thing so hard at one point smoke was coming out the nose area as it screamed. The motor is good. Good tension. Badly bent throat plate. Pretty blue clone. I guess I should put a hand crank on it and save the motor... I wonder if I need to soak the nose in transmission fluid like Joe does. What does transmission fluid do to beautiful blue paint?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    Maybe next Friday will work? OH joy! you get to solder again. <VBG>

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    I got a 40 watt iron and I've been practicing my soldering! I'm not good, yet, but I'm much less bad! Laura

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    Glenn is going to come back up here - I need to solder. Maybe we can solder the stupid lamp cord.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    WORK LIGHT
    We spent the evening looking for a work light at 3 box stores. I have a stupid LED light I sort of have a love hate thing going with it.t to vane for it, but I'm betting I would have about as much luck getting that aimed as the stupid light that keeps going out. What do you use???
    I use this IKEA light http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/pr...233/#/20169658
    I like it for both sewing and on my work bench. Really heavy base. They make a clip one, but I don't like it. Laura

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    Quote Originally Posted by nurseknitsLaura View Post
    I use this IKEA light http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/pr...233/#/20169658
    I like it for both sewing and on my work bench. Really heavy base. They make a clip one, but I don't like it. Laura
    That's what I was looking for.
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    http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10180977/
    Bah ha ha ha - this one would be the bomb if it wouldn't take up too much space on the bench...
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    I was going to suggest this one as well. It works great.
    Quote Originally Posted by nurseknitsLaura View Post
    I use this IKEA light http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/pr...233/#/20169658
    I like it for both sewing and on my work bench. Really heavy base. They make a clip one, but I don't like it. Laura
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    Light: I fight with small flash lights for up close detail work, and clamp on lights with the twisty 100 watt equivalent neon blubs.

    Knobs: I have a bunch of Kenmores and so far no stuck nobs. Just one machine with a cranky top tension. I guess I'd just use the Tri-Flow oil or a good penetrating oil with some gentle persuasion until it surrenders and frees up. I have a 3 # hammer I can threaten them with if needed.

    ATF: Won't hurt blue paint or any other color either. Just don't leave the machine idling in gear ...... LOL

    Tensions: I usually do take them apart, clean and adjust them, after I've done everything else and test run it. I have a Singer 328 I just finished most of it's cleaning and the tension disks are rusty. BUT ..... for some reason the tension is good. At some point I'll have to take it apart and clean and polish, or replace the disks, for for now, it ain't broke, so I ain't gonna fix it.

    Smoke belching blue clone: I'll bet something is bent and binding. Smoke from the nose???????????? Is there a light in that area? If not that bent throat plate makes me want to think somethings bent and really binding up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Light:

    Smoke belching blue clone: I'll bet something is bent and binding. Smoke from the nose???????????? Is there a light in that area? If not that bent throat plate makes me want to think somethings bent and really binding up.


    Joe
    Bent needle bar has occurred to me, too but the smoke is from the top front rear hole by the take up lever disks - and it makes a good stitch. If the needle bar was bent I doubt it would make a good stitch. I do see a little rust. I don't think I've ever seen rust up there and no place else. That machine is nice otherwise.

    I noticed that you can't get that lamp anymore. The one I have is the clamp on one like it. The light is great - the switch is garbage and the clamp is a PITB.
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    I'm interested in this too... my Singer 27 VS2 with the sphynx decals is in almost perfect condition, but the decals have rubbed off in just a couple of places so I'm wondering if it would be good just to touch them up a little and then they would be absolutely perfect - is that the done thing, or not??

    Anyway, my query in relation to your response Glenn, which may be silly - but isn't the black paint black japan? Is there a reason why you wouldn't use this? I only ask because I have heaps left over from doing our floors and I presumed it was the same stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    I think a little turps is all you need to thin and you can get in small bottles at the same place you get the paint. No need to buy a big can of thinner it just takes a very small amount. After mixing the dye with the alcohol use shellac as the binder to make a black paint so to speak so you can apply it. If you have any questions during the process just ask away. I am glad to help anytime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frudemoo View Post
    I'm interested in this too... my Singer 27 VS2 with the sphynx decals is in almost perfect condition, but the decals have rubbed off in just a couple of places so I'm wondering if it would be good just to touch them up a little and then they would be absolutely perfect - is that the done thing, or not??

    Anyway, my query in relation to your response Glenn, which may be silly - but isn't the black paint black japan? Is there a reason why you wouldn't use this? I only ask because I have heaps left over from doing our floors and I presumed it was the same stuff.
    Japan on these old machines was baked on stuff like asphalt but the black testors paint is a good match also the the aniline dye in black with shellac will give you a look more like the japan finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Light:
    Knobs: I have a bunch of Kenmores and so far no stuck nobs. Just one machine with a cranky top tension. I guess I'd just use the Tri-Flow oil or a good penetrating oil with some gentle persuasion until it surrenders and frees up. I have a 3 # hammer I can threaten them with if needed.

    ATF: Won't hurt blue paint or any other color either. Just don't leave the machine idling in gear ...... LOL

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    A hammer won't help at all - probably bend the shaft or break something. I have had them soaking in T-F for months. Every once in a while I shoot them up again...
    I shoot up all the moving parts, too - something must be getting missed. There is very limited access to some of them.
    Most of the knobs now work - probably all but one on each machine.
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