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    I sent my Featherweight off to Arkansas this morning. She'll be coming home in a lovely shade of dark purple. I'll post pictures when she comes home.
    Sharon

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveH View Post
    Different functions.

    Tri_Flow is a lubricant. it has a silicon base so even when it dries it leaves behind a lubricant (dry silicon)

    Kroil is a penetrating oil. it's function is to seep into cracks and crevasses and soften any existing rust and/or contaminants. It is almost anti oil.

    This stuff REALLY has a amazingly low surface tension... Take two flat plates of material. Put on one drop of other stuff (Tri-Flow, WD-40, sewing machine oil, etc) and on the other put one drop of Kroil. In a few hours you will see the Kroil one has spread out WAY more than any of the others. I buy mine from McMaster Carr http://www.mcmaster.com/
    Thank you Steve. I think I will get some for the penetrating qualities. Thank you for the info.
    ~G~

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    Jenn,

    Brewer shows 3/16" width leather belting in a 100 foot roll retailing at $110.00. If this roll is cut into the standard 72" pieces you will get 16 pieces (plus some left over). At this price that is $6.875 each. That is about retail,, not much saving in buying a large roll.
    I did a quick check on the online auction site for "LEATHER BELT SINGER TREADLE SEWING MACHINES 3/16""
    and found them for about $3.00 to $4.00 each. This $3 to $4 price is lower than my wholesale price.

    Cathy


    Quote Originally Posted by jennb View Post
    hey At the rate I've acquired treadles I'm thinking it will make more sense to just buy a whole spool of leather for belts. Does anyone have a recommendation of a place I can buy it and the staples used for them? I could use 4 or 5 belts right now as it is.
    Cathy

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplefiend View Post
    I sent my Featherweight off to Arkansas this morning. She'll be coming home in a lovely shade of dark purple. I'll post pictures when she comes home.
    Sharon
    Sharon, Did you take some before pictures?
    ~G~

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    Tri-Flow Oils and grease that we use on sewing machines contains NO silicone. The quotes below are from the Tri-Flow home page:
    { http://www.triflowlubricants.com/index.html }

    Tri-Flow Superior Lubricant Drip Bottle

    Tri-Flow Superior Lubricant is the superior, light viscosity lube that allows for deep penetration into hard to reach moving parts. The drip bottle application, with a convenient straw, allows for deep penetration in hard to reach moving parts. High-grade petroleum oils provide optimum lubrication under extreme temperatures (-60 to 475F) and humidity. Formulated solvents soften and remove dirt and contaminants, while special additives displace moisture and prevent rust and corrosion. Formulated with P.T.F.E.

    Tri-Flow Superior
    Dry Lubricant

    Tri-Flow Superior Dry Lubricant is an elite formula created for dry and dusty conditions. The drip bottle application, with a convenient straw, allows for deep penetration in hard to reach moving parts. Featuring paraffin wax and high-grade petroleum oil to allow the lube to go on wet, but then set up in a dry, 'wax-like' film so it will not attract or absorb grit and grime. Perfect for dry, dirty, dusty conditions, while still providing adequate wet weather performance. Holds up to extreme pressures and resists water wash-off. Provides incredible efficiency without attracting an excessive amount of contaminants.
    Tri-Flow Synthetic Grease

    Tri-Flow Clear Synthetic Grease is a premium quality, extreme pressure, non-melting, waterproof formula that seals out water contaminants. It is available in handy squeeze tube for easy application and fits nicely in a grease gun. Our grease is compatible with most rubbers and plastic and stands up to extreme temperatures (-10 - +400 F). Guaranteed to optimize the performance of your equipment's moving parts, such as bearings and tracks, and will allow them to last longer and run quieter and smoother. Prevents rusting even when exposed to salt water! Formulated with P.T.F.E.
    P.T.F.E. is AKA Teflon.

    Joe

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    Purple Featherweight...can't wait to see that one!

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    See if someone can find the answer to this! How long will Tri-Flow last? After all these years, my DH informs me he has a great deal of it in storage. The Army has used it for ages to lube guns. Would be safe to use the old stored Tri-Flow on my machines?

    Very serendipitous to have this come up in conversation at home, log on to the QB and find it a hot topic here too. Love you folks!!
    Annette

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    I would say, indefinitely. Regular oil lasts nearly forever in the bottle so I'd take a look see at the oil, shake it up, then see what it looks like.

    ~Or~ Contact Tri-Flow and ask them. They made it.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    I would say, indefinitely. Regular oil lasts nearly forever in the bottle so I'd take a look see at the oil, shake it up, then see what it looks like.

    ~Or~ Contact Tri-Flow and ask them. They made it.

    Joe
    You got me thinking and I wanted to know too. According to their website, 3 years. http://www.triflowlubricants.com/pdf...esellsheet.pdf
    ~G~

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    Grant,

    That's good to know. So it does have a shelf life. I guess I shouldn't lay in a life time supply of it then.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Grant,

    That's good to know. So it does have a shelf life. I guess I shouldn't lay in a life time supply of it then.

    Joe
    Joe, I guess not! That seems a little short to me to be honest though. I may look into this further and ask them why.
    ~G~

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    Quote Originally Posted by jennb View Post
    hey At the rate I've acquired treadles I'm thinking it will make more sense to just buy a whole spool of leather for belts. Does anyone have a recommendation of a place I can buy it and the staples used for them? I could use 4 or 5 belts right now as it is.
    PM me about this. I have a "Leather Factory" wholesale account

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Tri-Flow Oils and grease that we use on sewing machines contains NO silicone. The quotes below are from the Tri-Flow home page:P.T.F.E. is AKA Teflon. Joe
    Thank you for catching that. I do not know why I said silicon. I meant Teflon. I have said that incorrectly on a number of posts. Sorry.

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    I have a 13 year old can of T-F spray - I should see if it is any good.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    good mothers let you lick the beaters - great mothers turn it off first

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant15clone View Post
    Sharon, Did you take some before pictures?
    ~G~
    I used to have a picture of it when Webshots was still around, but not anymore. My machine has no decals or clear coat left. All along the front of edge of the machine, the paint was rubbed off and you can see bare metal. It does however sew a perfect stitch.
    Sharon

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpeace4u View Post
    Found this picture of another richmond. This is exactly what ours looks like decals and all. The word Richmond is worn off on ours but if I squint I can see where it used to be.
    So, that is my Richmond treadle in the picture you found, so you probably also found my previous posts that show my cabinet that is different than yours, and that have info I had found on my research. I wanted to let you know that this machine takes a non-standard sewing machine needle size: the eldredge needles are a bit longer than the normal 15x1 needle. However, I have been successful using standard 15x1 needles that are not inserted all the way to the top of the needle slot. The old eldredge needles are hard to find. I found some at a local sewing machine shop, but none since, and there were a few with the machine when I got it. I have one needle marked with a sharpie that serves as a guide to mark 15x1 needles, so I know how far to insert them.

    The paperwork with my richmond indicates the same department store in New York. My machine belonged to my great grandmother, and later some great-aunts who lived in a small town in upstate New York near Cooperstown. After her last sister died, my grandmother went back to close out the family home, and the treadle was shipped to me in California when I was in my twenties. I have had it since the late 1980s, it works great, and as you can see it is in very good shape. I keep it cleaned and oiled since I did an original deep clean, and use it on occasion.

    As far as age, my treadle base has a wooden footman, which others on this board say indicates the machine is pre-1900. That would make sense based on my family history timeline, and I would guess it entered the household sometime in the 1890s to early 1900s.

    Enjoy your treadle---mine seems pretty indestructible, so if you've got yours up and running that's a good sign you can clean it up and use it for years. I'm constantly amazed to look at the old richmond and know that it is over 100 years old!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    It is made by Davis around 1890, I have a badged Davis called the Pathfinder. I also have a manual.
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    I believe the Richmond treadle is actually a badged National---the medallion is specific to National rather than Davis from what I've read on this board. On my Richmond, it came with Eldredge needles, and the shuttle holder is stamped Eldredge, also a National machine. I guess we don't know for sure, just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpeace4u View Post
    You wouldn't happen to know how to thread it would you? I do not have a manual.
    Did you figure out how to thread the leaf tension on top, which is different from Glenn's machine? If not, let me know and I can post a photo for you.

    Regarding your bobbin winder arm, when you disassembled and reassembled for cleaning, it sounds like you didn't get the spring seated again correctly---it has to be under tension when you reassemble in order to work. I did the same on mine when I deep cleaned it, but kept at it and finally got it working again.

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    My DH just brought in a two cup spray bottle half full of 15 year old Tri-Flow. "Shake it up. I've never had any problems with it. Does what it's supposed to for me. Watch out because it spreads." Imagine my surprise! I have had it here all along. Boy howdy, do my treadles have a treat in store...
    Annette

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbugsullivan View Post
    My DH just brought in a two cup spray bottle half full of 15 year old Tri-Flow. "Shake it up. I've never had any problems with it. Does what it's supposed to for me. Watch out because it spreads." Imagine my surprise! I have had it here all along. Boy howdy, do my treadles have a treat in store...
    give them a good drink
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    My Kroil came from Meijers (big box store) in with the gun cleaning tools. It's done a good job on the 66 - just one screw is being difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishrose View Post
    My Kroil came from Meijers (big box store) in with the gun cleaning tools. It's done a good job on the 66 - just one screw is being difficult.
    did you try heat?
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    good mothers let you lick the beaters - great mothers turn it off first

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    Quote Originally Posted by treadlep View Post
    I believe the Richmond treadle is actually a badged National---the medallion is specific to National rather than Davis from what I've read on this board. On my Richmond, it came with Eldredge needles, and the shuttle holder is stamped Eldredge, also a National machine. I guess we don't know for sure, just my opinion.
    treadlep, You are right and I have to eat my words. I have so many machines I get confused sometimes(senior moment. I now have sent her the correct manual for her machine.
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    I posted the other day that a singer 12 bobbin will fit a Frister and Rossmann. I forgot to add one very important item. You need to drill a small hole in one end of the bobbin to accept the pin in the bobbin winder clamp in order for the bobbin to turn properly. This is very easy to do with a small dremel bit. Yes and they do work just fine in the Fand R. Sorry Steve I forgot to tell you this in the PM. Just another senior moment. I just have to much in my head to keep it all straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treadlep View Post
    So, that is my Richmond treadle in the picture you found, so you probably also found my previous posts that show my cabinet that is different than yours, and that have info I had found on my research. I wanted to let you know that this machine takes a non-standard sewing machine needle size: the eldredge needles are a bit longer than the normal 15x1 needle. However, I have been successful using standard 15x1 needles that are not inserted all the way to the top of the needle slot. The old eldredge needles are hard to find. I found some at a local sewing machine shop, but none since, and there were a few with the machine when I got it. I have one needle marked with a sharpie that serves as a guide to mark 15x1 needles, so I know how far to insert them.

    The paperwork with my richmond indicates the same department store in New York. My machine belonged to my great grandmother, and later some great-aunts who lived in a small town in upstate New York near Cooperstown. After her last sister died, my grandmother went back to close out the family home, and the treadle was shipped to me in California when I was in my twenties. I have had it since the late 1980s, it works great, and as you can see it is in very good shape. I keep it cleaned and oiled since I did an original deep clean, and use it on occasion.

    As far as age, my treadle base has a wooden footman, which others on this board say indicates the machine is pre-1900. That would make sense based on my family history timeline, and I would guess it entered the household sometime in the 1890s to early 1900s.

    Enjoy your treadle---mine seems pretty indestructible, so if you've got yours up and running that's a good sign you can clean it up and use it for years. I'm constantly amazed to look at the old richmond and know that it is over 100 years old!
    Thanks. We received ours this past week. We knew it belonged to my great grandmother, but after receiving we confirmed put suspicions that it belonged to her mother, my great great grandmother before her. Someone else originally bought, but we are not sure whether it was in the family or if my great great grandmother bought it used. When my great grandmother died in 1991 it was supposed to go to my ,other, however a mixup ended with us only getting it this past week almost 22 years later. Mine isn't in near as good of condition as yours, most of he decals are worn off. However I sewed a little more on a quilt I have been working on today, and it sews great. I like it better than my modern singer.

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