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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathie S.
    I have had success with rubbing alcohol. Kathie
    Alcohol will take off paint and decals!!! Try sewing machine oil instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb44
    I just got back from an auction where I bought a Victor treadle sewing machine for $20. The label on the machine reads "Victor Sewing Machine Co. Middletown, Conn." There is no number on it except a 4 on the post above the bobbin wider. It has a straight bobbin.

    I searched the net for info. ISMACS is the only place that had a shred of info. The company only existed from 1876 to 1890. So this machine is really old. And it is in bad shape. A lot of rust on the metal legs, drawers are off and parts of the veneer on the cabinet is loose. The wheel only moves slightly. I think it is the shaft/bar underneath from the wheel to the bobbin that is frozen. And the cover box is in pieces. It's a challenge.

    There is probably info on this thread about restoring machines that would help me, but going through 933 pages is daunting. I am anxious to get it working. DH now has a project. LOL

    Does anyone know anything else about this machine?

    My mother had a Singer treadle model 127. One of the dumbest things I've done is sell that machine. It sewed so well.
    Barb do a search for turorials here. There are cleaning/restoring tutes and one for restoring the cabinet too. The tutorials are from Billy, our fearless leader here (lostn51), and Glenn our cabinet restorer! If you can't find them, one of us can find the link and post it!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by tammy cosper
    I just posted a pic of a gorgeous sphinx at this link.
    http://www.quiltingboard.com/t-115711-1.htm
    Can't believe she looks so bright after 100+1 years.
    I am soooo thankful so many people took such good care of their machines.
    Tammy very nice machine! Those decals look almost perfect!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damienvon3
    Quote Originally Posted by Miz Johnny
    Quote Originally Posted by Damienvon3

    You are lucky to have found the feet/accessories with yours, as they are very hard to come by. They have an unusual way of attachment--back clamping, but the top has a cross on it. I think I have two feet with mine; will probably never find any more to go with it. [/quote

    Oh, that is good news then. I will try to get pictures of the feet that I have if you want. Just let me know.
    That would be great!
    Here they are, I just took out of the box and took a few quick pictures. If you want better pictures let me know.

    Wow, those are really nice looking!

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    BoJangles, I did find the tutorials last night after posting. But this machine is so different that the dis-assembly tut doesn't help much. For example, the tension control is on top of the arm. It is a very simple machine. Luckily DH is very mechanical. Even though he thinks I am nuts, I can tell he's anxious to get it apart and clean it. As far as I know the only thing missing is the belt. There are two shuttles, but may be too rusty to use. One has a bobbin in it with blue thread.

    It has a coffin top that is in pieces - just needs glueing. But it is missing a carved piece on the front corner. May have to move one from the back and put a plain piece in the back.

    I did find a patent date on it of Nov. 1, 1881. I will keep doing research. The Smithsonian has a manual, but don't know if a print version is available.

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    Has anyone here won an auction on the goodwill site? I put a bid on a couple and am wondering if I want to continue with higher bids if necessary. My concern is the packing and shipping. How was your machine packed? Did it survive the shipping process? Thanks.

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    Haven't been getting updates, so have a lot of pages to get caught up! Just want to get back in the loop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by incoming2me
    Could someone please help me identify this Singer machine?
    I was thinking about getting Great-Grandmother's treadle out and back into use. I called my mom, who has had the machine stored for over 30 years, to drag it out and send me a picture. I've not personally laid eyes on it in over 30 years!

    I'm thinking it's a 15-30?
    Hopefully it's a bobbin machine, not a shuttle.

    Thanks!
    I believe you have a Singer Tiffany. Your mother may be able to give you the serial number on the front so that you can get the exact date of manufacturing from Singer
    http://www.singerco.com/support/serial_numbers.html

    Here's another website that you can identify the model type if you do not know the serial number: http://www.sandman-collectibles.com/...r-machines.htm

    You might also be able to gather information from Ismac's website: http://www.ismacs.net/faq.html

    Hope this is helpful :)

    Judy

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    [quote=BoJangles]
    Quote Originally Posted by Miz Johnny
    If this gives you any idea, two of the nicknames are "Touch and Swear" and "Touch and Throw". With the exception of the 600 and 603, the machines all have plastic gears, most of which have crumbled by now. They cost more to fix than they're worth, and many repair people won't bother. quote]
    Nancy
    If you are going to attend a Ray White advanced seminar, those T&Ss are good to practice changing gears. It's fun to learn even if you don't plan on doing this type of repair very often.

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    Heed help! How do I identify a Serial # that starts with "JC". When I go to the site I can click on the 2 letters and scroll to the numbers. However on the JC, I can't go any further.

    Also, does anyone have the Singer that uses the Bullit Bobbin? I did a search and found out how to thread it and seems there's a good replacement supply but wasn't sure how it compared to the 221s and 15s.

    Thanks so much!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb44
    BoJangles, I did find the tutorials last night after posting. But this machine is so different that the dis-assembly tut doesn't help much. For example, the tension control is on top of the arm. It is a very simple machine. Luckily DH is very mechanical. Even though he thinks I am nuts, I can tell he's anxious to get it apart and clean it. As far as I know the only thing missing is the belt. There are two shuttles, but may be too rusty to use. One has a bobbin in it with blue thread.

    It has a coffin top that is in pieces - just needs glueing. But it is missing a carved piece on the front corner. May have to move one from the back and put a plain piece in the back.

    I did find a patent date on it of Nov. 1, 1881. I will keep doing research. The Smithsonian has a manual, but don't know if a print version is available.
    Well, if the Smithsonian has a manual, you should be able to print it. If the patent date is 1881, then you can bet your machine is an 1880's machine. Pretty cool! I'd let your DH at it, you really can't hurt those old machines, just make sure what you take off goes back on! That top tension is very simple to use and take apart -- and, that top tension looks really cool too! Even though your machine may not look like the Redeye Billy used in his tute, the cleaning all the gunk off and out of the machine is the same. Good Luck! Post pictures for us to see the progress!

    Nancy

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    I played with the 'new' Necchi (page 932) this morning. The tension was way off, but I got it. How do I oil it? It's very stiff and there are no oil ports and only one obvious screw to remove - it's on the faceplate. I'm a little puzzled. I need to lubricate the knee pedal, too. It's stiff, too, but I do like sewing with one.

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    Hope there is someone who can help me get some info on a Montgomery Ward machine. Don't know its age but it must be vintage for it is all black like other older machines. Do they have any value? The number on it is H4310293 Thank you, Mary

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtapp9
    Quote Originally Posted by Damienvon3
    Quote Originally Posted by Miz Johnny
    Quote Originally Posted by Damienvon3

    You are lucky to have found the feet/accessories with yours, as they are very hard to come by. They have an unusual way of attachment--back clamping, but the top has a cross on it. I think I have two feet with mine; will probably never find any more to go with it. [/quote

    Oh, that is good news then. I will try to get pictures of the feet that I have if you want. Just let me know.
    What do the back clamping feet look like?

    That would be great!
    Here they are, I just took out of the box and took a few quick pictures. If you want better pictures let me know.

    Wow, those are really nice looking!

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    Irishrose,
    I have a Necchi BU Mira. On the top of the machine you'll find metal circles, those are you're oil ports. They are designed with ball bearings on springs to keep dust out. What you do to oil it is take something to slightly depress the center and put a couple drops of oil in each. Take the faceplate off and oil in there too. Anywhere else oil where metal moves against metal. Necchis are designed with such fine clearance that they bind up easily. Mine was totally frozen up when I got it.
    There is a Yahoo group Necchi sewing machine club that you can join which is only for Necchis made in Italy which I'm sure yours is because it has the older style logo on it. They have lots of files and manuals on the various models.
    On page 833 you'll see before and after pictures of my Necchi.
    Judy


    Quote Originally Posted by irishrose
    I played with the 'new' Necchi (page 932) this morning. The tension was way off, but I got it. How do I oil it? It's very stiff and there are no oil ports and only one obvious screw to remove - it's on the faceplate. I'm a little puzzled. I need to lubricate the knee pedal, too. It's stiff, too, but I do like sewing with one.

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    Thank you, Ohio Star. I was sure those had something to do with oiling because of their placement, but was puzzled as to how to apply the oil. Oh, yes, she proudly says "Made in Italy' on the post. The BF would predate the BU, plus mine is not a zigzag machine. Do you know how old yours is? I am aware of the clearance isssue as my go to machine is an Elna SU made in Switzerland back when they were doing it right, too.

    When the Necchi sews as perfect as I know she will, I am going to sell the Singer 128. I don't need an overabundance of sewing machines.

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    last week when I was in a habitat restore, they had a treadle for $90. the cabinet was sadly in need of restoration as was the machine itself. :( Hopefully someone with room for it can give it the tlc that it needs.

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    The motor on mine has 11 53 which is November 1953 and my manual is dated 1953 so I'm quessing late 1953 early 1954. There are no charts that I know of to date the Necchis but on the Necchi sewing machine club members are asked to list thier machines and serial numbers and if they know when thiers where made. You might be able to go by that and get an estimate on when your's was made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irishrose
    Thank you, Ohio Star. I was sure those had something to do with oiling because of their placement, but was puzzled as to how to apply the oil. Oh, yes, she proudly says "Made in Italy' on the post. The BF would predate the BU, plus mine is not a zigzag machine. Do you know how old yours is? I am aware of the clearance isssue as my go to machine is an Elna SU made in Switzerland back when they were doing it right, too.

    When the Necchi sews as perfect as I know she will, I am going to sell the Singer 128. I don't need an overabundance of sewing machines.

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    She's kind of grimy and rough in person but I think she is gonna GoJo up pretty spiffy! Motor runs and needle moves. I'm excited to get home and put a piece of fabric under there :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damienvon3
    Quote Originally Posted by Miz Johnny
    Quote Originally Posted by Damienvon3

    You are lucky to have found the feet/accessories with yours, as they are very hard to come by. They have an unusual way of attachment--back clamping, but the top has a cross on it. I think I have two feet with mine; will probably never find any more to go with it. [/quote

    Oh, that is good news then. I will try to get pictures of the feet that I have if you want. Just let me know.
    That would be great!
    Here they are, I just took out of the box and took a few quick pictures. If you want better pictures let me know.
    OMGosh!!! Those are wonderful!! You are soooo lucky you have them.

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    [quote=Damienvon3

    Oh the 99 hand crank would be a hoot camping. Can you imagine how many people would stop and watch you in action, might even have a few volunteers to give you a rest. :thumbup:[/quote]

    Hahaha!! That's what I was thinking, too. Plus my kids and grandkids would really be making fun of me sewing while camping....they already think I spend too much time sewing. Can you imagine??? LOL LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miz Johnny
    Quote Originally Posted by Damienvon3

    You are lucky to have found the feet/accessories with yours, as they are very hard to come by. They have an unusual way of attachment--back clamping, but the top has a cross on it. I think I have two feet with mine; will probably never find any more to go with it. [/quote

    Oh, that is good news then. I will try to get pictures of the feet that I have if you want. Just let me know.
    That would be great!
    Mizjohnny I have a few of the feet for your sewing machine I will send pic for you to look at and if you want them they are yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirty1mom
    Has anyone here won an auction on the goodwill site? I put a bid on a couple and am wondering if I want to continue with higher bids if necessary. My concern is the packing and shipping. How was your machine packed? Did it survive the shipping process? Thanks.
    I did win a machine from one of the Goodwill stores on the shopgoodwill.com site. Unfortunately they did not do such a great job packing it. There was some damage to the base, because although they wrapped the machine very well in bubble wrap, they put it into a gigantic box with just loose foam and peanuts thrown in, and it rattled around so much it broke the corner of the base. I would send them an e-mail and ask them to be sure it gets carefully wrapped first and then securely packed into a box so that it doesn't shift around. I have gotten other things from that site that were fine.

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    Miz Johnny, I am going to start working on my Elna Supermatic. When I first got it I tried it, the motor did work but the needle barely moved. I'm suspecting that it's just gummed up from sitting for so long. I have to get a new folding knee controller. What should I do first to get it going? Thanks!!

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    jtapp9, That's a very nice red eye. The decals are in such good shape and the machine looks good, too.

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