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    It is a full size machine and is Very, Very heavy.
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    Grant, that Nelco looks complicated and interesting too! The angle of the photo almost makes it look like a 3/4 size machine? Is it a full size? Very clean looking and pretty! Thanks for sharing!

    Nancy

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    Grant, I can't open these attachments?

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    Sadly, I think SOMEONE actually sanded them off. Not me!
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    Now that is interesting - the bed decals are beautiful, but the rest of the decals including the name are gone? Maybe, the name was never on the machine to start with? It looks like it has zig zag and feed drop? Nice machine!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant15clone View Post
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    Grant that Minnesota A is drop dead gorgeous! I would love to put that puppy in a treadle or hand crank her! You do a great job cleaning up and preserving the details on your machines! What a beauty! You need to post these in the photo shop too! They are beautiful machines!

    Nancy

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Size:  448.2 KBFound this yesterday . $29 at Savers. Anyone know much about it? Model 21e. It's adorable!

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    Grant did you take that Minnesota out of a treadle and put it in that case? That bobbin winder won't work the way you have the machine now unless you know a secret I don't know? Did you get the machine with the friction pulley motor added? That was one of the problems when people put a motor on their treadles - the bobbin winder! Or maybe, you could put a tire on the bobbin winder so it will connect to the hand wheel when you try to use it? Interesting!

    Nancy

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    Oh, and yes, it does have a feed drop and zig zag. The stitch width is regulated by the lever just below the black knob. The black knob controlls the needle left and right setting. The center position is straight zig zag and the left setting is just zig and the right is just zag. I hope that makes sense.
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    Sadly, I think SOMEONE actually sanded them off. Not me!

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    Grant very nice machines! How and what did you use to get all the metal parts so clean, and shiny!?

    Anamaria

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    I did not but I can tell that at one time it was in a Treadle. It has a generic conversion done to it and my guess it was a pretty late conversion. Later motor and bracket as well as a 50's tweed case. Name:  IMG_8388.JPG
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Size:  1,009.3 KB The motor mount was drilled and tapped into the back of the machine to mount the motor bracket. There is not a motor lug on it. Ahhhh, the bobbin winder. Two different belts of different sizes. Slip one off and slip the other on to wind a bobbin. No clutch wheel loosening for this baby. lol. It works amazingly well and super simple. It took me a minute to figure it out but I remembered the other belts in with the accessories and it was simple. If you have a treadle, It is for sale.
    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Grant did you take that Minnesota out of a treadle and put it in that case? That bobbin winder won't work the way you have the machine now unless you know a secret I don't know? Did you get the machine with the friction pulley motor added? That was one of the problems when people put a motor on their treadles - the bobbin winder! Or maybe, you could put a tire on the bobbin winder so it will connect to the hand wheel when you try to use it? Interesting!

    Nancy

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    On the painted surfaces I ALWAYS use and swear by CAR WAX! I can't say that loud enough. It will not damage the paint and is cheap and no fumes or skin problems. I'm an old gearhead that had a show car. I use a product called Nevr-Dull Wadding Polish. It is safe for all metals and works great on sewing machine parts. You can get it at auto parts stores like Auto Zone. In the cracks a wooden toothpick is best. It does not scratch the paint or chrome and can really get in there.
    Quote Originally Posted by grayhare View Post
    Grant very nice machines! How and what did you use to get all the metal parts so clean, and shiny!?

    Anamaria

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Grant did you take that Minnesota out of a treadle and put it in that case? That bobbin winder won't work the way you have the machine now unless you know a secret I don't know? Did you get the machine with the friction pulley motor added? That was one of the problems when people put a motor on their treadles - the bobbin winder! Or maybe, you could put a tire on the bobbin winder so it will connect to the hand wheel when you try to use it? Interesting!

    Nancy
    Nancy, I'm not Grant but forum member Jon let me in on a neet trick to make the bobbin winder work without a treadle belt.
    You move the winder base from the side of the boss on the machine to the other. This will align the winder wheel with the hand wheel. Then you just stick a bobbin winding tyre on the winder wheel and you can wind bobbins. I've done this to both my Minnesota A and B. Works good.
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    grant15clone,

    The little silver knob in the center of the hand wheel, disengages the small pulley from the hand wheel. The hand wheel is mounted solid to the main shaft. Just the reverse of most machines.


    Joe

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    Joe (Jon?) I was trying to do it in the conventional way like you described but like Nancy noticed, it was going to be difficult. I just went with the path of least resistance nad it works great.
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    grant15clone,

    The little silver knob in the center of the hand wheel, disengages the small pulley from the hand wheel. The hand wheel is mounted solid to the main shaft. Just the reverse of most machines.


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    Grant,

    I'm J Miller = Joe. Jon is another member who collects and documents Davis made machines. I forget his forum name.

    As for the clutch release knob on the Minnesotas I found it out by accident. When the pulley freed up and the hand wheel didn't, I thought I'd broken the machine. Then I realized they were different.

    Joe

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    I admit that this a strange question but here goes.

    If you had to give yourself a grab bag gift from your sewing/crafting area and it's readily available (as in I don't have to buy it) what would you gift yourself?

    I ask because I was voluntold /put in charge of the production and certain people are receiving "special" gifts, while other s are receiving nice, but not specifically picked for them, gifts in a paper grocery sack. I did all the finding/buying and am willing to bet that the leaders didn't and haven't thought about me. Not whining there but stating a fact.

    I have several things in mind but would like to see some suggestions and keep in mind that $6-$7 is the price range.

    Chris
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    This is my little Morse. I don't know if it is considered a clone or just a Morse badged machine but it was made in Japan. But I suppose the #228 on it should be a clue. The case it was in, wasn't in great shape but it must have done it's job and served this little Morse well. If this machine did more than hem a pair of pants in it's lifetime before I got it, I would be surprised. What I'm trying to say is, It was essentially unused. Even the paper UL sticker was still on it and was fully in tact. No scratches, no rust, just sitting in it's little cocoon waiting. The original protective packing grease was still on the underside. The finish on it was just remarkable. Name:  Morse1.jpg
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    Pink, that is sad. When I was refurbishing this machine I was amazed at the engineering that went into just that bobbin winder. It is a work of art! Can you have the piece welded back together? If it is just black paint that needs to be done after, it is easy to match. Any body shop can do this for you including the paint and shouldn't be too expensive. A college welding or even a High School Welding class might be able to do it for you too but the quality work might be at the body shop. And if it is like mine, it sews nice! Wind a bobbin on another machine and try it out!Name:  Anker sews.jpg
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    Grant - I believe the my New Home CZ is just a rebadged Anker RZ. Pity you didn't find parts as the bracket that attaches the bobbin winder to the machine was broken on mine in shipment It's nice to hear how well it sews, though!

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    And yes, they are the same machine.
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    Pink, that is sad. When I was refurbishing this machine I was amazed at the engineering that went into just that bobbin winder. It is a work of art! Can you have the piece welded back together? If it is just black paint that needs to be done after, it is easy to match. Any body shop can do this for you including the paint and shouldn't be too expensive. A college welding or even a High School Welding class might be able to do it for you too but the quality work might be at the body shop. And if it is like mine, it sews nice! Wind a bobbin on another machine and try it out!Name:  Anker sews.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by grant15clone View Post
    Pink, that is sad. When I was refurbishing this machine I was amazed at the engineering that went into just that bobbin winder. It is a work of art! Can you have the piece welded back together?
    I'm not sure. If you look at the break it's a brittle fracture so I'm guessing the material is cast and I'm not sure how well welding would work. My thought was to try JB Weld first and look at either having it welded or refabricated if that didn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris_quilts View Post
    I admit that this a strange question but here goes.

    If you had to give yourself a grab bag gift from your sewing/crafting area and it's readily available (as in I don't have to buy it) what would you gift yourself?

    I ask because I was voluntold /put in charge of the production and certain people are receiving "special" gifts, while other s are receiving nice, but not specifically picked for them, gifts in a paper grocery sack. I did all the finding/buying and am willing to bet that the leaders didn't and haven't thought about me. Not whining there but stating a fact.

    I have several things in mind but would like to see some suggestions and keep in mind that $6-$7 is the price range.

    Chris
    Chris, I would maybe include a seam ripper always need a new sharp one. Some of those little fat quarters that Jo ann sells for 1.19 or something. Package of straight pins. Maybe one of those marking pens that has disappearing ink. Also a few spools of thread. I would be very happy to receive that bag. Thought of something else. If some of the people are crafters you could include squares of felt and bottle of glue or glue sticks.
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    OW! You are right. That does look like it is cast. An epoxy might work so might the JB Weld. I have used epoxy before and I know it can be painted too to hide the break. I have a friend that is a welder and he has told me in the past that cast metal is difficult to weld but it is possible. You would have to have a good experienced welder to do it if you decided to go that route. That being said, I think I might try something other than welding it then. Good luck to you.

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    Grant, I've heard the same thing about welding cast iron. It's a frequent topic of discussion when dealing with broken hand planes The consensus is that it's beyond the skill of most welders and it's as likely to permanently screw things up as it is to help. Some have had luck brazing it but even that isn't certain to work.

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    I have obviously goofed and misstated what was I needing.

    I have all the bag stuff for all the others. What I was looking for was ideas for my own bag. I have decided to put together my own stuff to put into a bag specifically labeled with my name ~ there are about 5 other bags with names on them already. I'm thinking about a pack of machine needles maybe with the strange pincushion I found or with the box of class 15 & 66 bobbins that I picked up. It is all yard sale stuff so it fits the parameters of the gift bag requirements.

    Sorry if I confused anyone and thanks for your responses to those who responded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris_quilts View Post
    I have obviously goofed and misstated what was I needing.

    I have all the bag stuff for all the others. What I was looking for was ideas for my own bag. I have decided to put together my own stuff to put into a bag specifically labeled with my name ~ there are about 5 other bags with names on them already. I'm thinking about a pack of machine needles maybe with the strange pincushion I found or with the box of class 15 & 66 bobbins that I picked up. It is all yard sale stuff so it fits the parameters of the gift bag requirements.

    Sorry if I confused anyone and thanks for your responses to those who responded.
    Chris
    you are giving yourself a bag? Fat quarters, machine needles thread, never enough rippers, bobbins are good - small scissors, gift card or is it suppose to be strange? I can't think of anything you could go buy at the store that would be strange though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    you are giving yourself a bag? Fat quarters, machine needles thread, never enough rippers, bobbins are good - small scissors, gift card or is it suppose to be strange? I can't think of anything you could go buy at the store that would be strange though...

    volentold???
    Voluntold means you're both volunteered and told at the same time about a task, sometimes unpleasant ones, and you have zero input into the decision nor can you decline the "honor". It happens frequently in small committees because you might be the ideal person for the crap assignment in others' eyes.

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