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    That is a "beasty buttonholer". $10 in 1945 was a lot of money. Is there a part number on it?
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    Thanks for the info...just a note , have found info that this machine was probably manufactured sometime between May26,1896 and Dec.28,1897...Awesome!! and it is now stitching pretty well (still needs some tweeking on tension) thanks to your help! Appreciate it more than words can tell!! Thanks, DLP

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    Anyone looking for a beautiful 2 tone blue Vigorelli? http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/for/3354131026.html North of NYC I think the colors are probably nicer in person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    The monster button holler is just a camera angle thing. I have two of the Singer versions and they are about the same size. Both bolt up and work just fine on any low shank machine.

    Joe
    growl grumble grumble now I'm gonna havta dig 'em both out of some stash box or another and snap a few pics....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlhmnj View Post
    Here are a few completed listings:

    http://www.ebay.com/csc/i.html?_saca...mplete=1&rt=nc

    Jon
    Jon, thanks for the help. They went between $48 and $100 so offering her $60 would be okay. Don't want to pay much more but will see how she responds. Thanks again.
    Chris
    I meant to behave......but there were too many other options

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris_quilts View Post
    Jon, thanks for the help. They went between $48 and $100 so offering her $60 would be okay. Don't want to pay much more but will see how she responds. Thanks again.
    Chris
    she can always say no if she thinks you are too low and you can always go up if you like
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    she can always say no if she thinks you are too low and you can always go up if you like
    That's true and that's why I am starting low but I already know my upper limit.
    I meant to behave......but there were too many other options

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    Guess it's only worth parts if it needs some expensive repair or part.

    Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlhmnj View Post
    Guess it's only worth parts if it needs some expensive repair or part.

    Jon
    That is so true and I'm not buying a parts machine as I have several already.
    I meant to behave......but there were too many other options

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    Hi, Charlee! Good to hear from you, hope you continue to feel better. We miss you on the Board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    I have a big one like that - looks like a bulldozer and an old Singer which is smaller. I'm thinking the bigger one went on an industrial machine and maybe stayed connected - then just use that machine for button holes only. I think it would be putting it on and off the machine rather than using it would tear up the machine. I'm betting you need the plate to cover the feed dogs too. Is it a regular shank?
    There are a TON of attachments with this one, the drawers were full! It is low-shank - and I think you're right, it's the taking it off and putting it on that would damage the machine. Leaving it set up for buttonholes isn't a bad idea...or, ha, excuse to buy another machine!!! One for buttonholing and one for playing! I will take a picture later on of all the attachments that came with it, the feed covers were there too...I don't have any feed covers for any of my treadles either so now I'm thrilled...now I have to try to FREE MOTION!!! Well...that is after I put a new belt on it... Lol*

    The more I thought about the buttonholer...it was purchased in 1945 and by that time this 1911 machine was old news compared to the newer electric models - so I wonder if this was a purchase made special to fit the owner's "old machine". The smaller modern buttonholers of that time would have been available by that time wouldn't they? I have one dated 1947 by Singer for my featherweight. I bet they bought this big honker to fit this "old" machine in particular.

    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    The monster button holler is just a camera angle thing. I have two of the Singer versions and they are about the same size. Both bolt up and work just fine on any low shank machine.

    Joe
    Yep just smoke and mirrors. ROTFL* It's pretty big and industrial looking - but to your credit I pulled out my singer buttonholer dated 1947 and there is a cover to hide the mechanics and that alone may play a bit of an opitical illusion and make it appear smaller. Also my hands are small. The Husband always teases me that my hands and tootsies are miniature. Lengthwise though, when compared, they aren't to different.

    I will take a picture and post later on - the Husband is off today so we are in and out of the house running errands.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caroline S View Post
    That is a "beasty buttonholer". $10 in 1945 was a lot of money. Is there a part number on it?
    Not sure about the part number...going to check here in a bit. There is a ton of paper work, the cover to the manual is deteriorating but the inside is intact. Receipts and instructions are included in many of the attachment boxes. The person my Husband bought the machine from was in her 90's, I guess this was her Mother's machine and it's been in her family since the day it was purchased. He said that he'd thought she'd told him she had the receipt from it's original purchase but she didn't include it.

    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    growl grumble grumble now I'm gonna havta dig 'em both out of some stash box or another and snap a few pics....
    Hahaha - I'd like to see pictures of yours Miriam for comparison. The thought of making buttonholes on a treadle is exciting!!!! Possibly tedious and a little daunting, but exciting none the less! Lol*
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    Sharon, hope your pet does well at the doctors.

    Lots of pretty machines have found new homes. Enjoy.

    Charlee, glad you are feeling better and hope you are back to doing all the things you like to do real soon. Miss seeing you on here.
    Quilting with a friend keeps me in stitches.

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    I thought that a few pictures of these non-cam buttonholers might be fun and useful. I dug out a few representatives from my collection (hoard).
    The BHer in the last pix is for an industrial class 31(high shank). It should fit the 31-15 and 31-20 machines.
    They are beasts, but work very well and don't need to be removed from the machine to change a cam size. The size adjustments are the wing nuts on the side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    I thought that a few pictures of these non-cam buttonholers might be fun and useful. I dug out a few representatives from my collection (hoard).
    The BHer in the last pix is for an industrial class 31(high shank). It should fit the 31-15 and 31-20 machines.
    They are beasts, but work very well and don't need to be removed from the machine to change a cam size. The size adjustments are the wing nuts on the side.
    Cathy
    Cathy; So they breed in captivity???? That would surely explain my stash (hoard) of both buttonholers and boxes of attachments.
    I meant to behave......but there were too many other options

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    I thought that a few pictures of these non-cam buttonholers might be fun and useful. I dug out a few representatives from my collection (hoard).
    The BHer in the last pix is for an industrial class 31(high shank). It should fit the 31-15 and 31-20 machines.
    They are beasts, but work very well and don't need to be removed from the machine to change a cam size. The size adjustments are the wing nuts on the side.

    Cathy
    Oh so glad you shared! Look at the collection you have!!! Nice!! The box it came in looks just like those "Famous" brand boxes...except it says "MODEL C" and has Singer on the side. I see your other box says "Free" - would that mean the machines they fit?

    It could very well be that the buttonholer I have doesn't go with this machine at all. I found about half dozen rubber belts in one of the drawers too and this machine is set up as a treadle.
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    Here's another angle of the buttonholer, next to the Singer cam version for my featherweight...also the print end of the box it came in and the instruction manual to compare for fun.
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    Chris,

    YES!! They do breed in captivity. Watch out! Those pix were only a small sampling of my hoard, most of which I don't remember buying. So they must be breeding. I also have proof that the attachments breed in captivity.

    Cathy


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    Cathy; So they breed in captivity???? That would surely explain my stash (hoard) of both buttonholers and boxes of attachments.
    Cathy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    Chris,

    YES!! They do breed in captivity. Watch out! Those pix were only a small sampling of my hoard, most of which I don't remember buying. So they must be breeding. I also have proof that the attachments breed in captivity.

    Cathy
    Cathy, I also believe that sewing machines breed in captivity as that surely would explain my herd!! I know that attachments breed because I have quite a few of them most of which I don't remember acquiring.
    Chris
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    sigh...
    if they ain't breeding how do they get in?
    We could start a buttonholer picture gallery... Maybe some time I'll pull some out and shoot pics... that is if I can find them all. They hide and lurk in the nooks and crannies of my shop. I keep putting them in one place but they must sneak out and breed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee View Post
    Hi Everyone! I've been reminded that I'm a slacker and should get here and post!

    I'm better...the meds are helping and I have more energy, still drag a bit, but really am much better!

    Gotta go back and read what everyone has been up to!! ~hugs all around~
    Yes, you needed to get back on and let us all know you're still kicking. I was going to give you till today (monday) and then give you a shout. But you beat me to it.

    Good to hear you're doing better. If you're wanting to go junkin you must be getting better... that's good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplefiend View Post
    Thank you to everyone who is sending prayers for Molly, will update this next week to let ya'll know how she's doing.
    She has come a long way since she came to live with us, she was very ill when my DD found her. She was a mere 50#(
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    Do keep us all posted. Most quilters have critters, I think..... they are part of our families and we love them. .... even feisty ones like our Gus. Our daughter's work friends know me as Gus' mom.
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    [QUOTE=pumpkinpatchquilter;5601629]There are a TON of attachments with this one, the drawers were full! It is low-shank - and I think you're right, it's the taking it off and putting it on that would damage the machine. Leaving it set up for buttonholes isn't a bad idea...or, ha, excuse to buy another machine!!! One for buttonholing and one for playing! I will take a picture later on of all the attachments that came with it, the feed covers were there too...I don't have any feed covers for any of my treadles either so now I'm thrilled...now I have to try to FREE MOTION!!! Well...that is after I put a new belt on it... Lol*

    I tried to put that cover on my FW when I was FMQing and it wouldn't work for me. Once I took the cover off and put the stitch length at 0 it worked fine. So, that cover isn't helpful in some cases.

    I wish I could find 'a TON of attachments' with any of the machines I'm finding. I usually get only a few. Argh!! And I'd love to find another buttonholer..... so I didn't have to pack and move mine every time I head north for the summer and south for the winter. But, I'll find another sometime. That huge one looks daunting.

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    [QUOTE=Mizkaki;5601924]I thought that a few pictures of these non-cam buttonholers might be fun and useful. I dug out a few representatives from my collection (hoard).
    The BHer in the last pix is for an industrial class 31(high shank). It should fit the 31-15 and 31-20 machines.
    They are beasts, but work very well and don't need to be removed from the machine to change a cam size. The size adjustments are the wing nuts on the side.

    Cathy



    I wouldn't know how to use these...... and yes, I think you need to separate them so they don't breed anymore.

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    buttonholers... if you don't have any be very cautious about buying one - once you do the appear out of nowhere. They lurk in corners, boxes and drawers. If you want one be sure someone on here would sell one or more probably pretty cheap...
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
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    Okay, I've got a question for all of you. We are heading back to Southern Michigan next week and I've bought 4 sewing machines this summer that I'm taking back south with me (well, 5 actually, but I already took one back). Each one is in a case and I'll have to put them in the trailer cause Gus rides in the back seat and the topper isn't water-tight. Anyway, I was thinking that I'd put each one in a separate box, sitting on a blanket for cushioning and I'll probably surround each one with packing peanuts. Is there more that I need to do to make sure they travel safely. I'm going to have to work on every one when I get them home but I don't want anything to happen to them in transit.

    Also, I'm going to leave one of my FWs here and we winterize the cabin but is there something I should do (more that oil it well) to protect it from freezing up this winter. It's the only machine I've used all summer and I don't want to move it back and forth.... it will be my summer machine. If you all think this is a bad idea, I'll move it, too.... but we already pull a trailer back and forth and I get a lot of grief about the amount of quilting stuff I cart from here to there and back again.

    So, let me know, okay?

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