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    The 128 may look like a toy, epecially next to your big boy, that's the machine that's being hand cranked and shipped to where our soldiers are fighting for repairing their gear (not the right word, but I won't call my son to find out). I wish I had a local way to contribute my little bruiser. He's a godzilla in perfect condition.

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    I think I'll go with harp . I found a machine with a throat likes to eat my arm, I'm kinda hung up on having two of those

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    [QUOTE=J Miller;5323281]Nancy,
    So what's wrong with using the term "harp space"? It just sounds silly to me as a harp is a large triangular musical instrument. But I've yet to read any incriminations on the use of the phrase. I guess I'll go back using "arch" instead of "harp". ]

    Well, I made the mistake of using the term "harp space" like lots and lots of other folks! That term doesn't go well with some people - so now I just say the 'throat space' or something like that!@ If you google "harp space" you will get "throat space" on sewing machines as one of the examples for that term! Oh well!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by notsureif View Post
    nancy, I got up morning and took out the tape measure, your right on it's size,, this thing ( 16-188) is huge, I mean a monster ..

    I have never named a car or machine other than POS or PITA...

    BUT , This thing has to be either Burtus or Bubba,, it well wore as far as paint,, half the bed is raw metal, maybe a 1/3 of the decals still show, my thoughts are to clean and just clear coat the machine, making it easier to keep clean. yet show it's age.

    I was worried about the needles, but nope the shop has a drawer full and many sizes, 50 cents each.., I check the bobbin because I read they were NLA, turns out the what I think is known as class 15 ? wide ones with all the holes in them.

    you know what I made the deal to buy this aweek before she sent me a photo, so sight unseen. when she sent a pic the day before I when after it, seeing the photo,, I had to change my pants, I couldn't believe it was still in a treadle base..

    I got the 66 treadle and the 128 yesterady also, with those it's time to call off this machine collect deal , BUT I know here there two more singer industrails a 16 and a 61 w, now I want those..

    I'm a told junkie, my shop is all vintage to antique tools as in south bend lathe 1933, logan mill 1941, craftmans wood works tool from the 40's to mid 50's so on... all stuff before we became a throw away world..


    this 16 - 188 is 90 year old..the only wear I see is where the upper foot hand lever has been viberating on it stop, there is not one puch mark from a needle hitting..


    This 128 looks like a toy
    Ok Notsureif, I thought I was talking to a female, but this text makes me think different! You have to be male, although, some gals do collect tools too!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    My one BIG problem with multiple layers of thread on a bobbin is there's never enough to finish what you are doing. You just get started and run out. I did that three times with what was on the bobbin of the MW just to see how much was there. Not enough of anything until the last layer which was packed in rock hard and rusted.

    Frugal is one thing, but winding over other thread is a wasted effort. More trouble than it's worth.

    JMHO

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    Joe, this is a very good point! Another reason to not wind those bobbins with different colored threads! Some machines like my 319w in treadle are a pain in the you know what to change the bobbins anyway! It is always better to start with full bobbin!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Ok Notsureif, I thought I was talking to a female, but this text makes me think different! You have to be male, although, some gals do collect tools too!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishrose View Post
    I don't know about sew-classics, but I had to take pliers to the ones I bought from April1930s. The rolled edge on the repros was a little too much for my first 301 so I had to squeeze it in slightly all the way around. I'm glad the second came with a lot of original bobbins, because I do like use my lonely original for FMQ. The fixed ones work perfectly, but I don't want to take the chance on thread breaking or anything.
    We have bought a bunch of bobbins from Sew-Classic. Lets' see:
    Bobbins for our; 319K, Feather Weight, Kenmore, Class 15 and 66 metal and plastic, and every one of them has been good.

    I cannot say the same thing for those we've bought at JoAnn's.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    We have bought a bunch of bobbins from Sew-Classic. Lets' see:
    Bobbins for our; 319K, Feather Weight, Kenmore, Class 15 and 66 metal and plastic, and every one of them has been good.

    I cannot say the same thing for those we've bought at JoAnn's.

    Joe
    Joe, thanks for the input. I knew not to use wallyworld or Joann's bobbins. I also have 10 from a sewing shop in Wichita that my 301 doesn't like. Glad to hear sew-classic is the place to go for them.
    I meant to behave......but there were too many other options

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    [QUOTE=BoJangles;5323778]
    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Nancy,
    So what's wrong with using the term "harp space"? It just sounds silly to me as a harp is a large triangular musical instrument. But I've yet to read any incriminations on the use of the phrase. I guess I'll go back using "arch" instead of "harp". ]

    Well, I made the mistake of using the term "harp space" like lots and lots of other folks! That term doesn't go well with some people - so now I just say the 'throat space' or something like that!@ If you google "harp space" you will get "throat space" on sewing machines as one of the examples for that term! Oh well!

    Nancy
    I think I'll use "arch". After all it is an arch of sorts. It's not really a throat although you might consider the needle as a tooth. I suppose if the machine makes a nice sound you could call it musical so harp might be sorta acceptable.

    Naw, I'll use "arch".

    Joe

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    yes. I'm a boy,, thats why I go for the horse power / touque of a machine, most anything I sew is heavy big , so on.

    The home machines, I can over heat a motor in minutes.. The wiring you talked about I know what was done and why it worked the way it did, but explianing it on here would take hrs...I've been a goverment emplyee ( army) a millworker, a logger , a farmer , a wanta be hippie, to a carpenter , a truck driver, a pencil pusher , to a IT tech. picked fruit and plow gardens mow lawns. even clean house and wash windows, earned a Phd in home schooling

    I can't type nor spell, if I don't know I have no fear in asking no matter how stuipd it may be.. if I don't do it right I'll do it again..

    I'm told I'm weird for sending my time and money on these machines, yet as in yesterdays adventures,, yet having one little old lady, roolled down the window of the car she was sitting and tell me her story of learning to sew on a machine just like that ( 1919 128 la vencedora ) and the glow on her face as she put her hand on that machine. was something that can not ever be replaced, being so weird sure brings smiles to many people faces..

    I've been very serously thinking doing a public display with these machines.. I have yet to see one person sit down at one of these treadle and make the wheel go around and not have the biggest grin on there face

    There a working machine, yet a big kids toy

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    Being a Hillbilly , what if we just call this harp a Hole, after all a needle doesn't have a eye , it's a Hole

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    I like the hole term.

    Quote Originally Posted by notsureif View Post
    Being a Hillbilly , what if we just call this harp a Hole, after all a needle doesn't have a eye , it's a Hole
    I meant to behave......but there were too many other options

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    Here's my two cents. I contacted sew-classic about the 66 bobbins being too big. She replied that hers are checked and will fit the older machines. All twenty that I bought work like a charm.

    Aren't I sad today. I'm visiting DD north of Baltimore and brought my 1963 New Home to quilt a project. Well, the motor died today. For awhile she would take off and sew perfectly if I just bumped the wheel. Now she won't do anything. Its not the machine. With the belt removed I finished the seam by spinning the wheel by hand. And the motor does nothing even with the belt off. Sigh. Where in the world will I find a motor for Myrtle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by redmadder View Post
    Here's my two cents. I contacted sew-classic about the 66 bobbins being too big. She replied that hers are checked and will fit the older machines. All twenty that I bought work like a charm.

    Aren't I sad today. I'm visiting DD north of Baltimore and brought my 1963 New Home to quilt a project. Well, the motor died today. For awhile she would take off and sew perfectly if I just bumped the wheel. Now she won't do anything. Its not the machine. With the belt removed I finished the seam by spinning the wheel by hand. And the motor does nothing even with the belt off. Sigh. Where in the world will I find a motor for Myrtle?
    Are you sure it isn't a loose wire or a bad contact connection on the foot control or a bumped circuit breaker? Try a different outlet. You can get new foot controls pretty easy. Is it just a bolt on motor or is it internal? http://shop.sew-classic.com/Motor-Ne...s-SCE35L09.htm - that one is external bolt on. She says she is out of stock. I would call her anyway - usually she comes up with something. I'm thinking there are other places to find new sewing machine motors. Grainger maybe?
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    If it's an external motor, take it off and take to an appliance repair guy. It may just be brushes or worn contacts. I took my Universal in to get a new cord, but I know he went over the entire motor.

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    These are the quilt blocks I picked up the other day...they cost me 1.50... Anyone have an idea of date for these fabrics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    My one BIG problem with multiple layers of thread on a bobbin is there's never enough to finish what you are doing. You just get started and run out. I did that three times with what was on the bobbin of the MW just to see how much was there. Not enough of anything until the last layer which was packed in rock hard and rusted.

    Frugal is one thing, but winding over other thread is a wasted effort. More trouble than it's worth.

    JMHO

    Joe
    My record for number of thread colors on 1 bobbin was 15 on a class 15 bobbin and of course it was rusted once I got it all off. So I don't like multiple layers of thread on bobbins either.
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    I just heard from the 301's seller. She wanted to know what I wanted for the broken case or did I want to return the machine? My answer will make some you purist's hair stand on end - the price of a roll of duct tape and a can of spray paint. I want the case to store the machine after she makes a table runner, not for its possible historical value. I do not want to return a 301!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishrose View Post
    I just heard from the 301's seller. She wanted to know what I wanted for the broken case or did I want to return the machine? My answer will make some you purist's hair stand on end - the price of a roll of duct tape and a can of spray paint. I want the case to store the machine after she makes a table runner, not for its possible historical value. I do not want to return a 301!!!!!
    I have 5 of them and several cases. Wouldn't bother me in the least to hear you wrapping it in duct tape. Or painting it. Whatever works. I've also seen a few redos with contact paper. Better than getting thrown out, it might as well be useable.

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    use postal tape it sticks longer ,, if anyone try's to remove it,, it tears the case all to **** home depot has 97 cent spray paint

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee View Post
    These are the quilt blocks I picked up the other day...they cost me 1.50... Anyone have an idea of date for these fabrics?

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    Could be the origanial 30's material that they are now reproducing. I like the different colors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irishrose View Post
    I just heard from the 301's seller. She wanted to know what I wanted for the broken case or did I want to return the machine? My answer will make some you purist's hair stand on end - the price of a roll of duct tape and a can of spray paint. I want the case to store the machine after she makes a table runner, not for its possible historical value. I do not want to return a 301!!!!!
    My Sewmore 404 came in a box that had completely fallen apart in shipping. I took it apart cleaned it and glued it all back together. Now to cover it. I'm going to use a dark burgundy polished cotton for that.

    Our Domestic's box was badly messed up so I glued it back together, then used acrylic craft paints to touch up the damaged area.

    I have many of the old cases that have had separated joints that Elmer's wood glue has fixed nicely.

    I don't think I could stand duct tape though.

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    Joe, my children call me the duct tape queen. They even bought me a calendar and a book of 1001 things you can do with duct tape. Have you seen the tie dye and the leopard prints? Very cool, but I haven't found a use for them yet. John, I've used 97 cent spray paint, but love the coverage of a new one, I think it's Rustoleum X2. My only concern is scuffing up the tape enough so the paint will hold. Steel wool? You're right, packing tape is strong.

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    Update: the seller refunded me $20 instead of the smaller amount I asked for. That means I paid $89 total for a long bed 301, a packed box of attachments and a repairable case. I can handle that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crossstitcher View Post
    Could be the origanial 30's material that they are now reproducing. I like the different colors.
    That's what I was thinking Trish...these are old blocks, just wasn't sure how old. Thin muslin tho... am tempted to back it with a heavier muslin.
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