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    Thanks everyone for the encouraging words. I know there's an Elna because of the green case, but haven't checked everything out. Will have to decide wheather to clean up and sell or sell as is. Of course some will find a spot somewhere in my house. Will continue to bring it all home next week. Will try to take pictures then. Leaving this am for short trip to see sisters and they don't have computers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quilt addict
    boy, it has taken me a week to get caught up on the thread. There has been some great machines and information posted this last month. :)

    Here are my two latest purchases. I have been actually sewing instead of cleaning machines but now that it is getting cooler I will try to spend some time in the garage. I am running out of room.

    This is Davis VF2 that I picked up in Lincoln, NE when I was back for my nephew's wedding. Came home in my carryon luggage. Serial number is 1064910 last patent date is May 18th 1885. I hope the flowers are as pretty as yours Glenn.

    2nd is unidentified handcrank. I just picked it up last night off CL. This is the worst condition one I have ever gotten. I don't know if I will ever get it working. There is so much rust. But the needle bar and pressure foot will move. No movement in the transvers shuttle though. And there is no shuttle or bobbin.
    Love them both, but that handcrank has me by the heartstrings. Don't know what it is, but I'll bet it is German. Keep us posted. Lots of penetrating oil and a good looooong dip in the kerosene. Does miracles. If you give up, send her my way. :-D

    Texas Jan

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    Quote Originally Posted by quiltdoctor
    I have a Ruby, but haven't used her yet. She was another junk heap find, but looking good now. I was told she was probably a Davis made machine. Texas Jan
    Jan, WHAT a transformation of that Ruby! Phew! Beautiful...

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    Does anyone know how to remove the handwheel from a White FR? There is what looks like a large screw head in the middle of it, but when I take a screw driver to it, it just turns the entire mechanism for the machine, it doesn't unscrew. I can make the handwheel disconnect and turn freely (as for bobbin winding), but I can't figure out how to get it off completely. It's nasty grimy and needs some TLC. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by quilt addict
    Here are my two latest purchases.

    2nd is unidentified handcrank. I just picked it up last night off CL. This is the worst condition one I have ever gotten. I don't know if I will ever get it working. There is so much rust. But the needle bar and pressure foot will move. No movement in the transvers shuttle though. And there is no shuttle or bobbin.
    Hi quilt addict. WHAT a FIND! That handcrank is a handmade, German Hengstenberg machine! High end for it's time-super german manufacturing and should clean up/work well I hope! Hugo Hengstenberg set up his factory in 1875, copied the most successful machine of the time: Singers model 12 New Family machine of 1865. Then he 'improved' it. A bit later, they made this most popular Transverse shuttle. It has a spring loaded catch on the base, and a handcrank has a upper gear case screw 'bump'.

    The badge is unique. Three towered castle, the central tower being a church dome over an open gate to a city. This badge was the used for the H machines distributed through J. Silberg of Hamberg.

    Information and picture of badge found on Alex Askaroff/sewalot website. Check out this page: http://www.sewalot.com/hengstenberg_machine_history.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by auniqueview
    Most of the Dressmakers were made by White. I'm afraid I failed to find a free manual for you... :(

    Did you oil the machine before you started sewing?

    No, I didn't oil it. I have the instruction manual, a real plus. It shows how to open the face at the needle area, no problem, and a bird's eye view of the machine, but I am not sure how to get in there. I am hesitant to start removing screws and bits and pieces, without knowing what I am doing. I REALLY don't want to screw this machine up.

    I understand from what I found on the net that Dressmaker is out of business, but the machines are still popular. Was White a Japanese company?
    White is an America company, but after WW11 they moved the company to Japan. In the 1950's all production of White's machines went to Japan.

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by quilt addict
    boy, it has taken me a week to get caught up on the thread. There has been some great machines and information posted this last month. :)

    Here are my two latest purchases. I have been actually sewing instead of cleaning machines but now that it is getting cooler I will try to spend some time in the garage. I am running out of room.

    This is Davis VF2 that I picked up in Lincoln, NE when I was back for my nephew's wedding. Came home in my carryon luggage. Serial number is 1064910 last patent date is May 18th 1885. I hope the flowers are as pretty as yours Glenn.

    2nd is unidentified handcrank. I just picked it up last night off CL. This is the worst condition one I have ever gotten. I don't know if I will ever get it working. There is so much rust. But the needle bar and pressure foot will move. No movement in the transvers shuttle though. And there is no shuttle or bobbin.
    Lisa, love the HC and the Davis, but just a warning those Davis decals come off really easily - so be careful when you clean her!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by auniqueview
    It certainly seems to be a well built machine. Of course, lol, I am the least likely person to judge sewing machines, since I have only recently "made friends" with more than the first Brother that I have had a non-aggression treaty with for years.

    My mother was a wonderful seamstress, but she must have taken a dislike to me the day I was born. I'm lucky the woman in the bed next to her had a girl, because I am named after that baby. My dad was gone most of my life, working on construction crews that worked on the big dams, etc, and then, became so ill that he spent the rest of the time in the hospital, where I did not get to see him, and died when I was 14. I was pretty much an inconvenience, except to keep an eye on my brother. We lived with my grandmother, but she died when I was 8.

    My gm had a great treadle machine, and I tried sewing on it, without any instructions, but as soon as I showed an interest, poof...she got rid of it. Same deal with the upright piano, lol, so no, I don't play, either. I never learned how to sew, but took up other crafts on my own. But I made up my mind I would learn how to not only sew, but would learn how to quilt. I am determined to take a quilt to our family reunion in 2014, for the family auction. And I seldom give up on anything.

    My dh is starting to wonder about me, and my quest for the "right" sewing machine. I have tried to explain to him why I keep looking for another machine, but I don't think he really gets it. I think I am going to hand him the one quilt that I started to replace/repair a square (4x4) on, and see HIM roll it tight enough to get it under the needle and turn it. Then he might really understand. We will NOT discuss my hand sewing, lol.

    I am not a complete novice, and have made my dogs some outfits, and some nice beds for them and for friend's dogs. Today I totally drove myself nuts, because I kept making the same dumb mistake on a simple dog bed. Fortunately, I pin them, turn them, pin them, turn them, checking before I sew. I am NOT ripping something the size of a bed, lol. Finally it hit me....turn the piece over, dummy. I did, pinned it in place, but have left the sewing til tomorrow. Some days I wonder where I left my brain?

    I really appreciate all the help I am getting from the people on the board, and all the great ideas and inspirations from seeing the wonderful quilts and other items. Thanks, everyone.
    Auniqueview, what story! Some of us could not even imagine a childhood like yours! It so so nice to hear in your words that you have triumphed!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    I got one for free today...not sure of the age, it's an industrial Brother...tan...actually has a zigzag, which surprised me! Can't wait to have William help me move it so I can play with it a bit!! The thing is HUGE, so am not sure where I'll be able to put it, but I'll figure out something!! ;)
    Charlee are you going to post a picture of the Brother?

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by deplaylady
    Well, I was wrong about all the machines in the area being sent to shopgoodwill.com. These have been listed several times and no one has reached the reserve price yet:
    http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=8808723
    http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=8782509

    But - I stopped into the local Goodwill to look for candlesticks, didn't find them, but I saw a sewing machine cabinet. Opened it up and saw a really grubby looking plastic Singer 647. As I was closing the top, I look over and on the floor I spy something blue --- they missed a White Model 65, a J-A15. In a case with a couple of extra feet and a half dozen number 15 bobbins. I tried it out in the store-it runs smooth and quiet. The price? $13.99. The belt is like new - and the undersides are the cleanest I've seen in an old machine. It came home with me. So much for not buying any more machines!
    Deplaylady, I love the White! She is so clean and slick looking - a really nice looking machine. I'd of gotten her for $13.99! In fact, I have gotten a few of those machines -if they are cheap enough - I take them home, clean them up; and if I don't want to keep them I donate them to Hospice.

    Nancy

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    Ok for you Rocketeer folks, are any of you having trouble with the cams wearing out? I use my 503a Rocketeer all the time for decorative stitches on my little Patchabilities. I use mostly the #8 cam, which is now slipping and messing up sometimes. I did some research and the only thing people complained about with those machines were the cams. The people who bought them loved the machines because they are all metal, well-made machines, but couldn't understand why Singer made such a nice machine then used plastic to make the cams. The cams wear out! Has anyone tried filing off the rough edges on those cams to see if they will have more life. Now I am a little concerned about getting a 319W -it uses cams too. The top hat cams are easy to find, not sure about the flat cams of the 319w?

    Nancy

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    What a beautiful job of restoring that Ruby. I know mine is in bad shape but I may be able to gently clean the decals on the upper parts and repaint the bed. The cabinet will need some work, there are strip underneath of 3/16th wood that has come off.

    When I googled New Home Ruby Sewing Machine, the www.millmuseum.org came up. They have several plus a whole catalog to look at.

    I hope to teach my GD to sew on the Ruby. She is an artist so maybe can get her away from Anime for awhile. Wish me luck.

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    [quote=kwendt]
    Quote Originally Posted by quilt addict
    Here are my two latest purchases.

    Hi quilt addict. WHAT a FIND! That handcrank is a handmade, German Hengstenberg machine!

    Information and picture of badge found on Alex Askaroff/sewalot website. Check out this page: http://www.sewalot.com/hengstenberg_machine_history.htm
    Kwendt thank you for the identification. I had not had a chance to search for the badge but you described it perfectly. Yes this will be the first machine I think that will get the immersion bath in kerosine. Not sure if I can get some of the parts on the bottom into the evaporust after that.

    :-o

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostn51
    Hey gang how are you all doing!!

    I thought I would drop in and see how the shop was going since I have been going to the doctors and trying to stay out of trouble (which is really hard to do). I am happy to say that I am actually back to working on sewing machines and thanks to my Dad and my family I think I can be able to get back into the swing of things. I still can not get into the chemicals but I can take them apart and put them back together again it just takes me a whole lot longer but it is very therapeutic for me to say the least. And I can do the final polish so I have the last say so with quality control and that is the most important thing for me. But I am getting ready to clear out the studio and I am selling off parts of my collection to make room for more rare machines. And my Dad and a few friends are going to do the addition to the studio for me since I can not really do much of anything but tinker around. I can not wait to see what it will look like, I will have a 1940's Singer Store in my back yard!!

    Anyway I am going to try and to catch up on the post a bit before I have to hit the bed. Seems I sleep more than I am awake now......


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    Yipppppppppeeeeeeeeeeee! I am so Glad you are better!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles
    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    I got one for free today...not sure of the age, it's an industrial Brother...tan...actually has a zigzag, which surprised me! Can't wait to have William help me move it so I can play with it a bit!! The thing is HUGE, so am not sure where I'll be able to put it, but I'll figure out something!! ;)
    Charlee are you going to post a picture of the Brother?

    Nancy
    As soon as I can get William to help me bring it home, yes! :) He's resisting...which is futile, when it comes to sewing machines of ANY sort, he should know by now that I'm a borg!! :lol: "Resistance is futile...."

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    [quote=BoJanglesLisa, love the HC and the Davis, but just a warning those Davis decals come off really easily - so be careful when you clean her!

    Nancy[/quote]

    Nancy thank for the warning. I have one other Davis that I started with but still do not have running. I learned the hard way how easily their decals disappear. So now I will have two Davis heads to go in that treadle cabinet.

    I really want all those pretty flowers to show again.

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    [quote=quilt addict]
    Quote Originally Posted by BoJanglesLisa, love the HC and the Davis, but just a warning those Davis decals come off really easily - so be careful when you clean her!

    Nancy[/quote

    Nancy thank for the warning. I have one other Davis that I started with but still do not have running. I learned the hard way how easily their decals disappear. So now I will have two Davis heads to go in that treadle cabinet.

    I really want all those pretty flowers to show again.
    I found the paint on my Davis to be rather....I don't know that "fragile" is the word I'm looking for, but for lack of a better word, I'll use it. I didn't lose any decals, but every time I cleaned, more black rubbed off. I finally decided that it was paint instead of dirt and quit trying to clean it ALL off! :lol: When I waxed it, I used a caranuba car wax, and in the places where the wax was a little thicker and didn't dry as fast, the black paint turned GREEN!! OMG! I was beside myself and almost in tears to have those green streaks in my beautiful black machine...but as they dried and "cured" it turned black again...

    I think the black is more "sensitive" than are the decals...but if the black UNDER the decals loosens, the decals come off with it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    Quote Originally Posted by jljack
    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    YAY!! I'm so glad she got here!! I have no doubt that you will work wondrous magic on her!

    And....just totally uncalled for on my part...but I'm EXTREMELY jealous of those attachments!! :lol: ;)
    They kinda make up for the horrible mess she's in, don't ya think? :wink:
    Yep!! Sure you don't want to just part out the machine and send me the attachments?? ;) :lol:
    And guess what's in that box??? A RUFFLER!!! I am JAZZED!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltnCowgirl
    Janice - getting caught up here this morning! Steven Tyler is an awesome machine! Once that grunge is he is going to be a Rock Star in the vintage sewing machine world! :thumbup:
    Well, unfortunately DH is not fond of the "Steven Tyler" name, so I have to decide on another.

    I looked at the finish under bright light last night, and it really looks like someone tried to paint it. Or the original japan "melted"?? Is that possible? I can see the decals (kind of) sort of "under" a dark covering....like paint didn't stick to the decals. I don't know. Very hard to figure it out. Anyone seen anything like this before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltnCowgirl
    Quote Originally Posted by grannysewer
    Ok, Ya'll have to tell me I didn't do a dumb thing. I bought a storage unit with sewing machines and parts in it. So far I've brought home 12 machnes. All need attention of some kind. Even one hand crank, 2 redeyes and some MW and an Elna. There's alot of plastic ones that may or may not be worth saving. But the really cool thing is the parts. This person was planning to open a repair shop, but died before he could do it. I just hope I haven't bitten off too big a bite.
    So...When is the grand opening of your new repair shop?! :D
    Wow....what a treasure trove you found!! That should keep you busy and out of trouble for a while!! :-)
    :thumbup:

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    Quote Originally Posted by quiltdoctor
    Quote Originally Posted by kwendt
    Quote Originally Posted by redmadder
    Thank you Wendt. That is my machine. This one is in a somewhat ornate cabinet but the finish on the machine is crumbling off the bed. The decals on the upper part are intact but it will take a lot of work to get her cleaned up. All her parts work just fine. So it is New Home and not White. Thank you.
    redmadder, you are so welcome. I was so surprised, since I don't think I'd ever heard of Ruby other than remembering seeing that craigslist ad posted by the local sew shop. I wonder if there are any other Ruby-ists on here?

    Hey now, One thing I'm really looking for... is a Canadian RAYMOND Treadle, that has the Beaver irons. Anyone have one? Any of our VSMS folks in Maine, NH, Canada... if you ever find one. PM me!!!!
    I have a Ruby, but haven't used her yet. She was another junk heap find, but looking good now. I was told she was probably a Davis made machine.

    Texas Jan

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    Jan, that Ruby is really pretty. I've seen a few, and most of them are in much worse condition than yours. Good job cleaning her up!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    I got one for free today...not sure of the age, it's an industrial Brother...tan...actually has a zigzag, which surprised me! Can't wait to have William help me move it so I can play with it a bit!! The thing is HUGE, so am not sure where I'll be able to put it, but I'll figure out something!! ;)
    Picture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jljack
    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltnCowgirl
    Janice - getting caught up here this morning! Steven Tyler is an awesome machine! Once that grunge is he is going to be a Rock Star in the vintage sewing machine world! :thumbup:
    Well, unfortunately DH is not fond of the "Steven Tyler" name, so I have to decide on another.

    I looked at the finish under bright light last night, and it really looks like someone tried to paint it. Or the original japan "melted"?? Is that possible? I can see the decals (kind of) sort of "under" a dark covering....like paint didn't stick to the decals. I don't know. Very hard to figure it out. Anyone seen anything like this before?
    In response to your "ruffler" post....BRAT!!!!!! :lol:

    I think that instead of being decals, these flowers are painted, and what you're seeing is the ghost of the flowers...mine is the same way...the impression of the flowers remains, the color is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melinda1962
    http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=8768015

    This is a singer 301 zigzagger. There is another one as well without the cams.
    I saw that and thought about bidding on it for my 301, but decided I probably would never use it, so I passed on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    Quote Originally Posted by jljack
    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltnCowgirl
    Janice - getting caught up here this morning! Steven Tyler is an awesome machine! Once that grunge is he is going to be a Rock Star in the vintage sewing machine world! :thumbup:
    Well, unfortunately DH is not fond of the "Steven Tyler" name, so I have to decide on another.

    I looked at the finish under bright light last night, and it really looks like someone tried to paint it. Or the original japan "melted"?? Is that possible? I can see the decals (kind of) sort of "under" a dark covering....like paint didn't stick to the decals. I don't know. Very hard to figure it out. Anyone seen anything like this before?
    In response to your "ruffler" post....BRAT!!!!!! :lol:

    I think that instead of being decals, these flowers are painted, and what you're seeing is the ghost of the flowers...mine is the same way...the impression of the flowers remains, the color is gone.
    OK. Well, I'm gonna stop scrubbing away at it, then. I got it initially clean last night...not all the cracks and crevices, and not all the metal pieces, which need lots of scrubbing. But the body and bed are pretty good. You can still see some of the DAV on the arm on the front and back, but everything else is pretty much gone. Anybody in favor of stripping it down and repainting? :?: :?:

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