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    Well Ladies and Gents, "Hazel" is home! :) There's going to be a lot of work to do to make this cabinet nice, I'm not going to get away with my usual scrub with Howards Restor-a-Finish and paste wax this time!

    The last patent date on the slide is 1885, serial number 426889, and she's got a wooden pitman. Nancy, did you ever clear up the wooden pitman age thing? Everything I've found to date indicates a pre-1890 machine...but I'm just not confident that it's correct...

    The attachments are interesting too....several of them are broken :( , but some are still good. This machine is going to be fun to play with if I ever get her back together!! She's apart in my dining room right now...

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    The attachments are interesting too....several of them are broken :( , but some are still good. This machine is going to be fun to play with if I ever get her back together!! She's apart in my dining room right now...[/quote]

    Do not forget to post before, during and after pictures. Kathie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    Well Ladies and Gents, "Hazel" is home! :) There's going to be a lot of work to do to make this cabinet nice, I'm not going to get away with my usual scrub with Howards Restor-a-Finish and paste wax this time!

    The last patent date on the slide is 1885, serial number 426889, and she's got a wooden pitman. Nancy, did you ever clear up the wooden pitman age thing? Everything I've found to date indicates a pre-1890 machine...but I'm just not confident that it's correct...

    The attachments are interesting too....several of them are broken :( , but some are still good. This machine is going to be fun to play with if I ever get her back together!! She's apart in my dining room right now...
    Charlee - I have a 1899 - 1900 Arlington treadle with a wooden pitman arm. I think I remember reading "somewhere" that the wooden pitman arms were done away with in 1900.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogHouseMom
    HELP!! I had posted this question but haven't seen any comments yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by DogHouseMom
    Also, on the bobbin winder is a rim of what I think was leather (the part that would "feel" the bobbin). The leather (or whatever it was) is shot and I'll need to replace it. Is this an easy part to find and replace?
    Also ... I now have the needle plate off and the bobbin case, but wondering how far do I disassemble the entire bobbin area? I don't think the user of the of the machine had EVER cleaned the bobbin area.
    I'm not sure what you are working on - be careful not to pull out any oil wicks - some machines have them. I kind of eye ball it - if the junk comes out easy with my trusty eyelash brush and artist brush and a Qtip - I get it out with that. If not I might take the teeth out. If the bobbin race easily comes out - some just pop out and some have a lever to pop it out. If it is more complicated I leave it and use a ton of oil or kerosene. It can be fun putting it all back together some times. Make sure you have a manual. If the manual shows how something goes apart and goes back together it is safe to take it apart. I figure if I can read the directions on a pattern and make it work, I can read the directions in a repair manual. I just don't like to unless I have to. I keep a muffin pan around to put parts in. I put them in the order I take them out. The go back the opposite - take pictures if you have a camera that does close up shots. Someone suggested disposable diapers or big towel under the machine. Keeping parts off the floor is my biggest problem - that and having them spring across the room into a pile of stuff... :roll:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    Well Ladies and Gents, "Hazel" is home! :) There's going to be a lot of work to do to make this cabinet nice, I'm not going to get away with my usual scrub with Howards Restor-a-Finish and paste wax this time!

    The last patent date on the slide is 1885, serial number 426889, and she's got a wooden pitman. Nancy, did you ever clear up the wooden pitman age thing? Everything I've found to date indicates a pre-1890 machine...but I'm just not confident that it's correct...

    The attachments are interesting too....several of them are broken :( , but some are still good. This machine is going to be fun to play with if I ever get her back together!! She's apart in my dining room right now...

    Charlee, Congrats!! You will have that cleaned up and purring for you. Sorry to hear about the attachments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif
    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    Well Ladies and Gents, "Hazel" is home! :) There's going to be a lot of work to do to make this cabinet nice, I'm not going to get away with my usual scrub with Howards Restor-a-Finish and paste wax this time!

    The last patent date on the slide is 1885, serial number 426889, and she's got a wooden pitman. Nancy, did you ever clear up the wooden pitman age thing? Everything I've found to date indicates a pre-1890 machine...but I'm just not confident that it's correct...

    The attachments are interesting too....several of them are broken :( , but some are still good. This machine is going to be fun to play with if I ever get her back together!! She's apart in my dining room right now...

    Charlee, Congrats!! You will have that cleaned up and purring for you. Sorry to hear about the attachments.
    Thanks! Hopefully I'll be able to find some for it...they're kind of weird looking! :lol: If not, it won't really matter...I'm gonna love this machine no matter what. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    Well Ladies and Gents, "Hazel" is home! :) There's going to be a lot of work to do to make this cabinet nice, I'm not going to get away with my usual scrub with Howards Restor-a-Finish and paste wax this time!

    The last patent date on the slide is 1885, serial number 426889, and she's got a wooden pitman. Nancy, did you ever clear up the wooden pitman age thing? Everything I've found to date indicates a pre-1890 machine...but I'm just not confident that it's correct...

    The attachments are interesting too....several of them are broken :( , but some are still good. This machine is going to be fun to play with if I ever get her back together!! She's apart in my dining room right now...
    Congratulations, Charlee, on your Davis!

    Charlee, I think you can rest assured that your Davis is a pre-1900 machine! No, I have not got an answer to the wood pitman issue, but in my research it seems Billy was right when he said the wood pitman is a clue to a pre 1900 machine. Starting in 1900, the big companies did away with wood pitmans. Maybe, some of the really small companies used them, the jury is still out on that? Like everything else, there is probably no black and white on that issue - but, it seems Singer, and the bigger companies didn't used wood after 1900.

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif
    Quote Originally Posted by jljack
    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif
    Quote Originally Posted by jljack
    I won a 15 clone on shopgoodwill.com on Friday, and can't wait to get it home. It says Sew Ezy or something like that. I didn't look at it today! :-)
    Congrats!!!! You got your 15 and a clone one at that!!! What ya going to call it? Ezzy, Sewzy...
    I looked at the pic again, and it does say Sew Ezy...So, I kinda like the Sewzy (pronounced Suzy?). I'll have to ask my grandaughter what she thinks, since she already named my FW.

    I got out the 1950 128 yesterday and messed around with it. She was bone dry, so I oiled and oiled and turned the handwheel. The electric cords are good, so I plugged her in and she ran OK, good stitch, but still really noisy and "gummy" feeling. I'll let the oil sit for a couple of days and run her again. She has the shuttle bobbin, so I had to get out the instructions to see how to do it. Never did one before....quite an experience!!

    I got out my 99 handcrank (new handcrank conversion) to try to find the "rubbing" sound. It was the front edge of the face plate pushed in slightly, and the takeup lever was rubbing it near the bottom of each stroke. So I used a small screwdriver to put some pressure on the edge of the faceplate, and it straightened right out. No more rubbing, and it runs so quiet it's amazing!! I sewed on her last night for a while...great!!

    Then....I got brave and got out my ruffler for my 301, and tried that. It worked!! Amazing! Can you oil the attachments? The ruffler seems like it's really stiff. I have to read up on all the other adjusting pieces on it, too, because the 2nd time I put it on it didn't work the same...??? Anyway, it's really cool!!

    Way fun weekend!! Playing with the machines, cleaning them, oiling and running them. Checking everything out....I'm loving this!! :-)

    Yup, Sewzy as in Suzy!

    Link to how to wind a shuttle bobbin Donna Kohler:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOu4-...eature=related

    And:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFQ6fTVnkT0

    And we can't forget MUV's video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4PhA...eature=related

    At the end of Donna Kohler's, it shows how to bypass and do it manually if the winder isn't putting the thread on evenly.
    Thanks Monica!! I started looking at videos today...very interesting!! I have been sewing today, so haven't tried it yet, but I'm going to soon.

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    [quote=Charlee]
    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif
    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    Well Ladies and Gents, "Hazel" is home! :)

    Charlee, Congrats!! You will have that cleaned up and purring for you. Sorry to hear about the attachments.
    Thanks! Hopefully I'll be able to find some for it...they're kind of weird looking! :lol: If not, it won't really matter...I'm gonna love this machine no matter what. :)
    I just played around with the attachments that came with my Davis NVF. I posted photos on my blog. Take a look to see if any of yours looks like mine. The Davis does have some weird looking attachments. I have a copy of the older manual, not the Davis NVF manual, that I followed to figure out how to attach the dang things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jljack
    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif
    Quote Originally Posted by jljack
    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif
    Quote Originally Posted by jljack
    I won a 15 clone on shopgoodwill.com on Friday, and can't wait to get it home. It says Sew Ezy or something like that. I didn't look at it today! :-)
    Congrats!!!! You got your 15 and a clone one at that!!! What ya going to call it? Ezzy, Sewzy...
    I looked at the pic again, and it does say Sew Ezy...So, I kinda like the Sewzy (pronounced Suzy?). I'll have to ask my grandaughter what she thinks, since she already named my FW.

    I got out the 1950 128 yesterday and messed around with it. She was bone dry, so I oiled and oiled and turned the handwheel. The electric cords are good, so I plugged her in and she ran OK, good stitch, but still really noisy and "gummy" feeling. I'll let the oil sit for a couple of days and run her again. She has the shuttle bobbin, so I had to get out the instructions to see how to do it. Never did one before....quite an experience!!

    I got out my 99 handcrank (new handcrank conversion) to try to find the "rubbing" sound. It was the front edge of the face plate pushed in slightly, and the takeup lever was rubbing it near the bottom of each stroke. So I used a small screwdriver to put some pressure on the edge of the faceplate, and it straightened right out. No more rubbing, and it runs so quiet it's amazing!! I sewed on her last night for a while...great!!

    Then....I got brave and got out my ruffler for my 301, and tried that. It worked!! Amazing! Can you oil the attachments? The ruffler seems like it's really stiff. I have to read up on all the other adjusting pieces on it, too, because the 2nd time I put it on it didn't work the same...??? Anyway, it's really cool!!

    Way fun weekend!! Playing with the machines, cleaning them, oiling and running them. Checking everything out....I'm loving this!! :-)

    Yup, Sewzy as in Suzy!

    Link to how to wind a shuttle bobbin Donna Kohler:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOu4-...eature=related

    And:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFQ6fTVnkT0

    And we can't forget MUV's video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4PhA...eature=related

    At the end of Donna Kohler's, it shows how to bypass and do it manually if the winder isn't putting the thread on evenly.
    Thanks Monica!! I started looking at videos today...very interesting!! I have been sewing today, so haven't tried it yet, but I'm going to soon.
    You're welcome! Or better yet, thank Donna Kohler or MUV for making the videos! Once you have seen it done, it is very simple to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif
    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    Well Ladies and Gents, "Hazel" is home! :) There's going to be a lot of work to do to make this cabinet nice, I'm not going to get away with my usual scrub with Howards Restor-a-Finish and paste wax this time!

    The last patent date on the slide is 1885, serial number 426889, and she's got a wooden pitman. Nancy, did you ever clear up the wooden pitman age thing? Everything I've found to date indicates a pre-1890 machine...but I'm just not confident that it's correct...

    The attachments are interesting too....several of them are broken :( , but some are still good. This machine is going to be fun to play with if I ever get her back together!! She's apart in my dining room right now...

    Charlee, Congrats!! You will have that cleaned up and purring for you. Sorry to hear about the attachments.
    Thanks! Hopefully I'll be able to find some for it...they're kind of weird looking! :lol: If not, it won't really matter...I'm gonna love this machine no matter what. :)
    Just what DO they look like???

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    Wow, did you guys see this auction? The seller doesn't say, but I'm thinking... how does someone have this many machines... maybe a storage unit that went up for auction? It's pretty amazing!

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-Lot-52-...item3a6a7879d0

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnaC
    Wow, did you guys see this auction? The seller doesn't say, but I'm thinking... how does someone have this many machines... maybe a storage unit that went up for auction? It's pretty amazing!

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-Lot-52-...item3a6a7879d0
    Looks like it, but they say they are from a working environment. I wonder if the 'working environment' was a sewing machine repair shop - maybe one that closed and these were left over? Either way, they must have gotten them for a real low price. There's no way they wanted to ship all of them - maybe that's why they are putting them up as one lot - they didn't want to bother to clean and list and ship them individually?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnaC
    Wow, did you guys see this auction? The seller doesn't say, but I'm thinking... how does someone have this many machines... maybe a storage unit that went up for auction? It's pretty amazing!

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-Lot-52-...item3a6a7879d0

    Holy cow...

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    Well, anybody on this thread who refurbishes machines and is near West Chester, PA could make a real killing ... LOL! Imagine what all of those machines would sell for individually.

    There's even a 15-91 in there, which is the one I want!! Although if you look at the supersized pictures, a lot of them are pretty rusty, and most are very dirty... it would take quite a bit of work to get all of them ready to sell, I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnaC
    Wow, did you guys see this auction? The seller doesn't say, but I'm thinking... how does someone have this many machines... maybe a storage unit that went up for auction? It's pretty amazing!

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-Lot-52-...item3a6a7879d0
    Getting them running is one thing - a lot of plastic. Are the parts all there? How about attachments - where are they? Foot controls and cords?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnaC
    Wow, did you guys see this auction? The seller doesn't say, but I'm thinking... how does someone have this many machines... maybe a storage unit that went up for auction? It's pretty amazing!

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-Lot-52-...item3a6a7879d0
    Well at that price it averages $15 per machine. But looking at the list most are ones I wouldn't want.

    Could of been an old sewing machine business that folded. These are all the old trade in's.

    There do look to be a couple gems in the pile but what a lot of work.

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    You know, I have a vintage Singer treadle machine in my living room. Bought it in an antique store about 15 years ago on the west coast of FL. I haven't taken the time to open her up and see what kind she is now that I know I can get the serial number and find out. I think I will put this on my list of things to do this weekend. Stay tuned, I will post pictures and let you all know what I find out.
    I know she works, but needs a spindle for the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quilt addict
    Quote Originally Posted by DonnaC
    Wow, did you guys see this auction? The seller doesn't say, but I'm thinking... how does someone have this many machines... maybe a storage unit that went up for auction? It's pretty amazing!

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-Lot-52-...item3a6a7879d0
    Well at that price it averages $15 per machine. But looking at the list most are ones I wouldn't want.

    I think even at $15 each you could lose money on that one if they aren't all there, all the cords, all the feet - some of them will never work. Some will never sell. Some are good. I think a person would be better off buying what they want if they can find it at a decent price.
    Could of been an old sewing machine business that folded. These are all the old trade in's.

    There do look to be a couple gems in the pile but what a lot of work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolly's sister
    You know, I have a vintage Singer treadle machine in my living room. Bought it in an antique store about 15 years ago on the west coast of FL. I haven't taken the time to open her up and see what kind she is now that I know I can get the serial number and find out. I think I will put this on my list of things to do this weekend. Stay tuned, I will post pictures and let you all know what I find out.
    I know she works, but needs a spindle for the thread.
    ~trying to wait patiently~ ;) :lol:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    Quote Originally Posted by Dolly's sister
    You know, I have a vintage Singer treadle machine in my living room. Bought it in an antique store about 15 years ago on the west coast of FL. I haven't taken the time to open her up and see what kind she is now that I know I can get the serial number and find out. I think I will put this on my list of things to do this weekend. Stay tuned, I will post pictures and let you all know what I find out.
    I know she works, but needs a spindle for the thread.
    ~trying to wait patiently~ ;) :lol:
    Hard to wait isn't it? I could never have not peeked inside .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Up North
    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    Quote Originally Posted by Dolly's sister
    You know, I have a vintage Singer treadle machine in my living room. Bought it in an antique store about 15 years ago on the west coast of FL. I haven't taken the time to open her up and see what kind she is now that I know I can get the serial number and find out. I think I will put this on my list of things to do this weekend. Stay tuned, I will post pictures and let you all know what I find out.
    I know she works, but needs a spindle for the thread.
    ~trying to wait patiently~ ;) :lol:
    Hard to wait isn't it? I could never have not peeked inside .

    We now know who didn't unwrap xmas gifts ahead of time and re-wrap them..... :mrgreen:

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    Quote Originally Posted by justtrish
    Quote Originally Posted by Up North
    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    Quote Originally Posted by Dolly's sister
    You know, I have a vintage Singer treadle machine in my living room. Bought it in an antique store about 15 years ago on the west coast of FL. I haven't taken the time to open her up and see what kind she is now that I know I can get the serial number and find out. I think I will put this on my list of things to do this weekend. Stay tuned, I will post pictures and let you all know what I find out.
    I know she works, but needs a spindle for the thread.
    ~trying to wait patiently~ ;) :lol:
    Hard to wait isn't it? I could never have not peeked inside .

    We now know who didn't unwrap xmas gifts ahead of time and re-wrap them..... :mrgreen:
    When you do, be sure to post pictures! BTW, I would have peeked , too! :)

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    Changing the subject here!

    So, lately the news has been focusing in items made in America (which is long over due, that focus), and how many items in your house have been truely made in America. One clip showed the tv crew removing the items from the house that weren't made in America. The entire house was empty minus one very small item (which I can't remember what the item is right now).

    Well, I was looking around my house today to see what I have. I think there are just a small amount of items that would stay, but almost all other large items would go if they did that process in my house.

    Best part...Almost all my treadles would stay-minus the two machine heads made in Scotland.

    Yes, another reason to rescue these vintage beauties!
    All about saving Made in America!!

    I LOVE my treadles!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnaC
    Well, anybody on this thread who refurbishes machines and is near West Chester, PA could make a real killing ... LOL! Imagine what all of those machines would sell for individually.

    There's even a 15-91 in there, which is the one I want!! Although if you look at the supersized pictures, a lot of them are pretty rusty, and most are very dirty... it would take quite a bit of work to get all of them ready to sell, I suppose.
    Do you think some of those machine's belong to someone who want's them back repaired?

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