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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    I'll try that Billy! And that won't hurt the decals, right? Gotta soak that piece of strapping tape off the bed too...

    Is that what you meant by "potted motor"? Seems to fit the description!
    Will not hurt them at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee
    Ok...this has GOT to stop! These darned machines just keep following me home!

    We stopped at a thrift store today after hitting one of the antique stores and eating my heart out seeing 3 featherweights that weren't able to come home with me...($450 each!)

    At the thrift store, there was a butt ugly, pressed wood cabinet. I opened it, and there was a Singer 201, Centenial! No power cord. Hmmmmm....marked at $35....bigger hmmmmmm.... Asked if they would take $15, because of no cord (thinking that if I can get parts for a FW, I'm betting I can get a power cord for this one!)

    They said YES! The clear coat is in bad shape, but the machine body and decals are great. Don't know about the motor until I find a cord....but I'm betting she sews!
    Great Charlee! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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    Your Kenmore is is a Model 1030 and it was made between the years of 1970-1971 by Jaguar. They also badged machines for the White Sewing Machine Company during this time.

    Billy[/quote]

    I am really enjoying this spot...could I have a rocker instead of a stool?

    Lots of questions. First one may sound kind of silly but here goes-what is a treadle? Is it a machine with the wheel exposed?

    What is a badged machine?

    And last one(for now :? )Billy, why do you say you like machines that are non-Singers?

    I'll be back with coffee and a blanket :thumbup:
    Andii

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    Billy: Found this White Machine yesterday and am wondering about it. How should I go about evaluating what it is worth?

    Like someone else said, "Billy, hope you get your other projects done".


    According to White Sewing Machine Company it was manufactured in 1931. $125 The Machine was purchased by my motherís Aunt new and when she died, her daughter gave it to my mother. My Mother used it until about 1990 when she gave it to me. The original owners manual and attachments are with it.
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    Hmmm, not sure I loaded those pictures correctly. Anyone know what I did that was wrong? Help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andii
    I am really enjoying this spot...could I have a rocker instead of a stool?

    Lots of questions. First one may sound kind of silly but here goes-what is a treadle? Is it a machine with the wheel exposed?

    What is a badged machine?

    And last one(for now :? )Billy, why do you say you like machines that are non-Singers?

    I'll be back with coffee and a blanket :thumbup:
    Andii
    One Rocker coming up!!! Come to think about it I think I might get one for me too. :wink:

    First question: what is a treadle?

    A treadle is the power source for operating the sewing machine. It is a foot powered table as such with the cabinet and the machine sitting on top of that. The foot pedal is attached to a pitman arm that connects to a band wheel. The bandwheel has a belt that goes from there to the machine. when the foot pedal moves so does the machine!!

    A badged machine is a machine that is made by a company that makes a sewing machine and puts the buyers name on it like Kenmore, Morse, Universal, and the list goes on.

    Now for the last one........I like the non-Singers because they are not that mainstream and there were literally hundreds of sewing machine makers during the "Sewing Machine Wars" (1870's to 1920's) and there were a lot of innovations during that time.

    The Eldredge/National 2 spool comes to mind first, they didn't have a bobbin they just used another spool of thread. Then the different shapes and names......

    Billy

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    Quote Originally Posted by SewExtreme
    Hmmm, not sure I loaded those pictures correctly. Anyone know what I did that was wrong? Help?
    I couldnt look at the photos but I would pay what you think its worth.

    These old machine are hard to kill but some of us here will say that you can break stuff off of them! :lol: (Sorry Jan)

    Billy

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    I had a FREE machine (my niece has it because she liked the cabinet-It is a light oak or ash with a medalion that looks art deco, I think.) it is in her hallway. I will have to get a picture. This thread is FUN. Thanks Billy

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    Ok, you got me curious. I have had this out on my front porch (ok I know I was bad). I bought it at a yard sale for $50. It's a Free machine. The numbers I could find were 880883. The top says "The Free Sewing Machine Co. Chicago" Anybody have any ideas? I have never heard of them before.

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    Thanks for the info-you explain things well.

    I think I may have a treadle and all I really know about it besides it being a Singer is that it is Heavy!! That'll have to be his name. My husband and I were out walking our dog in the neighborhood and found Heavy sitting near the road waiting for trash pick-up. My husband casually scooped him out of the trash and we continued our walk. We were probably only six blocks from home but it felt like miles! I volunteered to spell hubby and lasted only about a block.

    We hoisted Heavy onto the top of our entertainment center and he's been there every since. I'll have to climb up and dust him off. His serial number is AJ434948.

    I like the idea of rustic rockers with wide arms to balance our beverages on and a deep wide seat to curl up in.
    Andii

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    Well I want to say THANK YOU for all of the post and photos of the machines. I think this is going to be a really big place before its over with.

    If I miss a post or a question bear with me. It is really amazing the volume of questions and inquiries that have been coming in. I have been checking in about every other hour or so and there are several pages of post to go through!

    But boy the Shops business is booming and I love it!!!:D :D :D
    It has been open for what 3 days and we are going to be bumping 14 pages in a bit.

    But it is all of you that are making this place special and remember we are all family in here!!!!

    Billy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andii
    Thanks for the info-you explain things well.

    I think I may have a treadle and all I really know about it besides it being a Singer is that it is Heavy!! That'll have to be his name. My husband and I were out walking our dog in the neighborhood and found Heavy sitting near the road waiting for trash pick-up. My husband casually scooped him out of the trash and we continued our walk. We were probably only six blocks from home but it felt like miles! I volunteered to spell hubby and lasted only about a block.

    We hoisted Heavy onto the top of our entertainment center and he's been there every since. I'll have to climb up and dust him off. His serial number is AJ434948.

    I like the idea of rustic rockers with wide arms to balance our beverages on and a deep wide seat to curl up in.
    Andii
    Now that is what I call dedication!!! And a GOOD score!!!!

    You have a 201 with 25,000 of them allotted on March 16 1950. The question I have does it have a potted motor like the one Charlee posted a little earlier in this thread? Or does it have a belt going from the motor to the machine.

    Billy

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    Billy
    Thank you so much for the great cleaning descriptions. Now, as a newbie to taking machines apart...what exactly do I use the 3/4-1" and toothbrush on? Are there pictures somewhere to show me what to use kerosene on and what not too?
    Thanks again,
    Kat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladybugnana
    Ok, you got me curious. I have had this out on my front porch (ok I know I was bad). I bought it at a yard sale for $50. It's a Free machine. The numbers I could find were 880883. The top says "The Free Sewing Machine Co. Chicago" Anybody have any ideas? I have never heard of them before.
    Me likey!!!!!!

    Surprisingly enough the decals on the arm and upright look to be in really good condition. It will clean up nicely if you take your time and do it right. And you will have an Heirloom to pass down for generations.

    The Free Sewing Machine Company was located in Rockford, IL and was in an area known for cabinet makers. Your sewing machine is an early model and was probably made before 1910. These machines were known for (or advertised) as the smoothest running Vibrating Shuttle machine out at the time. According to information I read on the NeedleBar the machine had a "Rotoscillo movement" which was a lot smoother that the swinging motion of the the vibrating shuttle.

    All in all this is a very nice example of a very early version of a machine made during the Sewing Machine Wars. And this is the reason I like the Non-Singers so much!!

    I would clean it up being very careful of the remaining decals and repair what needs to be repaired on the cabinet and preserve the machine. Not many of these left......


    Billy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat B
    Billy
    Thank you so much for the great cleaning descriptions. Now, as a newbie to taking machines apart...what exactly do I use the 3/4-1" and toothbrush on? Are there pictures somewhere to show me what to use kerosene on and what not too?
    Thanks again,
    Kat
    I use those brushes to clean the mechanics of the machine like behind the faceplate, under the machine, Bobbin area, anywhere that you would have oil and lint build up.

    I will see if I have any photos of my restorations I can post while I was doing them. Maybe a tute will be in order for this.

    Billy

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    I love this shop! I ordered a belt for my Redeye today and it will be here Friday.......wooohoooooo!

    A tutorial would be great, Billy, when you get the time. Then I know I'll be doing it right!

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    "quote=Ladybugnana]Ok, you got me curious. I have had this out on my front porch (ok I know I was bad). I bought it at a yard sale for $50. It's a Free machine. The numbers I could find were 880883. The top says "The Free Sewing Machine Co. Chicago" Anybody have any ideas? I have never heard of them before"

    "Me likey!!!!!!

    Surprisingly enough the decals on the arm and upright look to be in really good condition. It will clean up nicely if you take your time and do it right. And you will have an Heirloom to pass down for generations.

    The Free Sewing Machine Company was located in Rockford, IL and was in an area known for cabinet makers. Your sewing machine is an early model and was probably made before 1910. These machines were known for (or advertised) as the smoothest running Vibrating Shuttle machine out at the time. According to information I read on the NeedleBar the machine had a "Rotoscillo movement" which was a lot smoother that the swinging motion of the the vibrating shuttle.

    All in all this is a very nice example of a very early version of a machine made during the Sewing Machine Wars. And this is the reason I like the Non-Singers so much!!

    I would clean it up being very careful of the remaining decals and repair what needs to be repaired on the cabinet and preserve the machine. Not many of these left......


    Billy"
    Wow, thank you. I would never have guessed. As I was looking through the three drawers on the cabinet, I found the accessory box with all the extra feet in it. I promise I will take better care of her now. Now I need to come up with a name...hmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostn51
    Quote Originally Posted by kygirl
    Ok, here's a pic of my oldest, Prissy. She is a model 99, I think that she is from the late 40's or 50's, not sure. I got her in a barter, 3 twin quilts for her and $100cash from a co-worker.
    She's missing a bobbin cover plate, other than that she is a smooth, quiet, well running machine.
    Prissy is a good looking machine!!

    If you can submit the serial number for her we can date her for you and tell you how many brothers and sisters she has on that allotment. The Bobbin plate for your machine is the same one for the 66 and the 185J. You can find it at any sewing machine repair shop or even the Singer dealer.

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    Billy, her # is AM523993 and a sm retangle has 99-. Her booklet has 99-23 on front cover

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    Quote Originally Posted by kygirl
    Billy, her # is AM523993 and a sm retangle has 99-. Her booklet has 99-23 on front cover
    Your machine was allotted on September 6, 1956 with 25,000 of them made during that run.

    Yours was the 20,892 machine off of the line!

    Billy

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    I am going to try to upload pictures again. I haven't ever done this before. I will just try one picture to see if it works.

    Then, I will have my cup of Bengel Spice with a tiny bit of Splenda and a splash of cream. MMMM... the aroma is so sweet.


    HELP, I need help! What am I doing wrong with trying to upload pictures????? :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

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    Linda, I think the photos are too big...do you have a program to resize them?

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    Thank you, Billy,for the info on 'Prissy', she was born only 2mts. after me. And from a family of 8, It seem as if I was about #20,000 on the list in line for the bathroom each morning. So we're a good match.

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    Keep in mind Kygirl, that the allotment date is not the machine's "birthdate". The allotment date is the day that someone from the Singer plant decided that X number of X type of machines would be made, and said machines would have serial numbers from (this number) to (this number).

    From what I understand, you can call Singer's customer service and they can tell you the actual date your machine was made. I'm probably going to try that tomorrow with this 201, since it's my first "real" Singer...(I have the 9W treadle machine, but it was made at the old Wheeler & Wilson plant, using a Wheeler & Wilson design, and a Wheeler & Wilson serial number...it's really a W&W with Singer decals!)

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    Well, I won my 1952 Elna Supermatic. Now all I need is the knee controller. Billy, could you ask your friends if they have one and how much they want? I am excited to get it. I think it's gonna be a little gem!!!
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    For those of you with cabinets that have finishes that are less than pristine, but not bad enough to justify a total strip/stain/shellac or varnish, this is what I do with my cabinets:

    I went and bought "Howard's Restore-A-Finish", and a bottle of "Howard's Bees Wax and Orange Oil". It's very easy to use, you'll need some 0000 steel wool, and some soft rags. When you apply the R-A-F, use the steel wool and make sure to follow the grain of the wood...rub gently. Wipe the wood down, and I let it sit for a bit...just to make sure it's dry. Take a soft rag, put some of the beeswax on it and rub it onto/into the wood. You're going to leave a pretty good "film" of it on the wood and allow it to sit and soak in for at least 20 minutes...I let it sit overnight. Take clean, soft rags and wipe the excess wax off, and another clean rag to buff the wood to a beautiful glow.

    It's not going to take out mildew (those dark stains from using the cabinet as a plant stand) but it will help the finish, and even if you need to strip it the wax/oil will help to preserve the wood until you can get to it.

    Needlebar has an excellent tutorial on refurbishing wood done by Fenman...I don't know if you have to be a member to access it or not, but here's the link:
    http://needlebar.org/main~nb/restoration/index.html

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