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    Found a machine like this in a consignment store. Does anyone know anything about a Coronado? I like the turn wheel on it for some silly reason. The person is asking $75 but without me trying to dicker the price she lowered it to $50. It has the cabinet also like the one in the photo. Any info would be much appreciated! :-D

    http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load...134120239.html

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    I have the same issue with my FW but not the 301. She sews perfectly and no tension issues unless it also involves operator error. I have yet to figure out the FW tension issues and there's another non-Singer that i have constant tension issues with which is why it will be rehomes as sson as I can get it halfway decent. Wishing you luck. ~~ Chris[/quote]

    I had issues with my FW also. I got discouraged and sold it to Nancy for what I paid for it. Nancy, being the wonderful person that she is, would not stop working on it until she found out the problem. She took a flashlight and tweezers and worked on it for a long time and found a long hair in the bobbin area. That fixed the tension problem. Kathie

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    Quote Originally Posted by SewExtreme
    Found a machine like this in a consignment store. Does anyone know anything about a Coronado? I like the turn wheel on it for some silly reason. The person is asking $75 but without me trying to dicker the price she lowered it to $50. It has the cabinet also like the one in the photo. Any info would be much appreciated! :-D

    http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load...134120239.html
    It looks like a National.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathie S.
    I have the same issue with my FW but not the 301. She sews perfectly and no tension issues unless it also involves operator error. I have yet to figure out the FW tension issues and there's another non-Singer that i have constant tension issues with which is why it will be rehomes as sson as I can get it halfway decent. Wishing you luck. ~~ Chris
    I had issues with my FW also. I got discouraged and sold it to Nancy for what I paid for it. Nancy, being the wonderful person that she is, would not stop working on it until she found out the problem. She took a flashlight and tweezers and worked on it for a long time and found a long hair in the bobbin area. That fixed the tension problem. Kathie[/quote]



    I will remember this when I can't figure out why the tension is still off after going through the routine check. Thanks for sharing this info.

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    http://jackson.craigslist.org/art/2479764392.html

    Just thought everyone would like to have another "great' idea for repurposing a vintage sewing machine. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by LindaR
    does anyone know what this is... :roll: antique walking foot...I bought 13 attachments for the back clamp singer and this was in it...lots of attachments I probably will never get into. thats the stitches the treadle is doing after got it all cleaned up and running. She is a trooper.
    Linda, get those attachments out and play with them! You'll be surprised at the ones you will use!! I absolutely love my ruffler and use it lots!

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    Well....I'm back from a couple of days in Eastern Oregon/Idaho.
    Not much luck on the junkin'...to my mind, they wanted outrageous prices for the few machines I found, and I didn't find much in the way of notions at all...with one exception. I found a combination thread box, pincushion, scissor holder in the shape of a bird. (The scissors form the bird's bill...it's pretty cute)

    I did find a really pretty Damascus treadle, in good shape and nice cabinet...they wanted more than my budget would allow tho, so it's still in Idaho. :( It was HARD to leave that machine behind!!

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    Sorry you didnt find anything :( But hope you had fun anyway!

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    Thanks! We had a good time Abby!

    Oh...and that Martha Washington cabinet with the White did NOT come home with me....too many issues... :(

    The one machine that DID come home with me was the 15-91 that my brother in law found for me at a yard sale for $5... rusty...handwheel turns, needle doesn't move...probably a parts machine. ~sigh~

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    Quote Originally Posted by jljack
    Here's another 1917 (approx) National Sewing Machine Company machine badged for a retailer. It's a little rough, but what a beauty!! It looks just like my Western Electric badged National.

    http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=8132648
    Very unusual looking machine!

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    My 301 has a pretty, very well balanced stitch. It is easier to remove than the Necchi or the Elna, but still good and solid. I do have the knob turned almost to nine on the top, so I don't have much wiggle room. That may change when I put on the new spring. If I overfill the bobbin when FMQ, the thread will jump out of the slot. Solution - don't overfill the bobbin.

    I always thought the Elna had the most perfect, strongest, hardest to remove to stitch I'd ever seen. The Necchi may be even more so. I really try make any errors with either of them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanamoms
    Quote Originally Posted by jljack
    Here's another 1917 (approx) National Sewing Machine Company machine badged for a retailer. It's a little rough, but what a beauty!! It looks just like my Western Electric badged National.

    http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=8132648
    Very unusual looking machine!
    I was unable to find the original post. Sorry.

    I have a machine with this same foot pedal. I wanted to rewire it, but it was a real pain to get to the connections, so I retaped the bad spot. And then the outlet that the motor and pedal plug into was also inaccessable! I would have had to break it, so left it alone. It's the cord from the motor to the outlet that is in bad shape with multiple taping. I have plugged it in and it runs sewww quietly!! The machines are totally different (mine and the pictured one.) This is a beauty!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtapp9
    So, do you ever really get a perfect tension on the old machines? I have a black 301 that I LUV. I use it but the tension has always been a "tad" off. There is always a tiny bit showing either top or bottom. And my top tension will be awful if I do anything other than between 0-1

    I have a tan 301 that i'm not so in love with. Doesn't sound the same as the black one and I just can't bond with it yet. I can NOT get the tension even remotely good on this one. It's "ok" but not right. I'm tempted to pop it in the cabinet and use it just to be using it and hoping it works out some on it's own. I'm seriously thiking of sending it to Billy in a few months for a makeover. I love red. Maybe I would LUV it in red :)

    Now I know why I would always hear my mom bit*hing about the tension :oops:
    If you can assemble a quilt you can do this: I would take the whole thing apart - yup take it apart. No kids. No pets. No DH. 'o/ Keep a muffin pan around and put the parts in it in order as you take it off. Use the tension diagram in the manual. A lot of the old manuals have instructions to take the tension apart and put it back together. (The first time I did one I was very nervous - I shook the whole time.) Just go slow - look at it carefully as you go. Clean EVERYTHING real good and put it back together according to the diagram. I amaze myself every time I do one. I don't even need the diagram anymore. I just routinely clean the tension when I get an old machine. Dried up oil can cause drag and rust or burrs can break threads - dust bunnies need to come out all makes the tension messed.. Hey if nothing else you can run some dental floss through there and pick up some of it. I just like the feel of it when I've taken it apart and cleaned it. Keep another machine right next to you so you can look at it as you reassemble. Here is an expanded diagram. It is the only one I know of with the picture of the pin. It is from sewclassic's catalog - I hope Jenny doesn't mind. http://shop.sew-classic.com/Tension-...572-125417.htm I posted it a couple pages back as well. If it doesn't go back together right take it apart and do it again. Pay attention to how that spring goes when you take it apart and in the diagram and in the other machine you have next to you. You can do this. You have made quilts. You have cooked. Go slow and don't worry it has been done before. If it is any help the service manual has about the same instructions as the owner's manual. They must have meant for the owner to take that tension apart on occasion. I do have one that doesn't work. It needs some adjustment on the presser lever. I haven't done that - the machine isn't turning and needs a total spa treatment some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jljack
    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles
    Well I wasn't out junkin today, but on our way to the store - I wanted to go a long back road - we spotted a 'Barn Sale' sign so pulled in to see what they had.

    They had tons of stuff, but I had to ask if there were any old sewing machines. This lady said yes, she had her Mother's portable machine in the house along with it's table. I immediately thought FW and asked to see the machine! Anyway, to make a long story short this is what I got for $125 - allotted on February 15, 1939, a FW with her card like table, her attachments, and the power cord/foot pedal. We have to replace the power cord. I was, and still am, really excited and guilty feeling because I didn't tell her what she had! I just gave her the $125, got the machine and table, thanked her, and left! I was not even trying to find another FW!

    Nancy

    I posted her picture in the photo shop too! The machine behind the FW is my Singer 15-88 treadle.
    Wow girl!! How lucky are you!!! Don't feel guilty. She set a price and you paid it. I'm sure she's happy with getting her full price.
    Janice, she had no idea what she had. That little FW was her Mother's machine. The lady has another Singer she bought for $50, she says about 30 years ago. She didn't show it to me, but she thought that machine was worth way more than the FW -- I do feel guilty because I didn't tell her the opposite was true!

    Nancy

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    Thank you Miriam for this info. I haven't taken my 15-91 apart yet. However, this info should come in handy so I am posting in 'My Pages' for future reference. I am also particularly thankful that you are sewww resourceful. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam
    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles
    Quote Originally Posted by quiltdoctor
    You are one lucky lady!! I'd like to see a picture of the cabinet of your Singer 15-88. Looks like one I just recently bought.

    Texas Jan
    Here you go! My 'go to' machine. He does it all, plus has reverse!

    Nancy
    nice rig!!!!! I'd love to find one like that around here.
    Thank you Miriam, I love that 15-88! I am in the process of finishing my DGS quilt right now using that 15-88!~ I had to make this quilt fast so that is the treadle of choice! His birthday is Saturday!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by quiltdoctor
    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles
    Quote Originally Posted by quiltdoctor
    You are one lucky lady!! I'd like to see a picture of the cabinet of your Singer 15-88. Looks like one I just recently bought.

    Texas Jan
    Here you go! My 'go to' machine. He does it all, plus has reverse!

    Nancy


    Yep that is the one. Mine was electrified. I can't see any sign by way of scratches or use marks that my cabinet ever was completely outfitted to be a treadle machine. She was made in 1948 (my birth year) AH701263. She has had quite a bit of use. I will restore the cabinet if it ever cools down enough here in Texas. Here are her before pictures. I paid $50.00 for her in a garage sale.

    Texas Jan
    Yep, Texas Jan, that is the same cabinet. I doubt it was ever a treadle cabinet. That straight leg cabinet was (I think) about the last model cabinet used for a treadle so it makes sense it was also used with the 15-90 and 15-91. Remember, my 15-88 is a 1939 model! I love those 15's!

    Monica, Vintagemotiff, also has a straight leg cabinet - although, I am not sure which machine came with it, but hers is a treadle!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by jljack
    Not long ago the question of when the first FW 221s came out was asked. I was just looking at the serial number records, and it looks like the first run started Oct 1933. For 2 years before that, at least, there are no 221s listed.
    Janice the first FW's were introduced a the Chicago World's Fair in 1933 - so 1933 would be the first run of the FW series! I'd love to find one of the first!

    Nancy

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    EDIT: Here is a picture of her. She still looks good and I can't wait to get her going!

    She looks real heavy duty
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerendipiD
    I am very new here,

    Now, I have the problem of... my plastic machines just don't give me the satisfaction that this one does - so I'd love to find an old machine that does a zig-zag (love the look of the 301s, but I don't think they do it). Does anyone have any recommendations for me?

    THanks!
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    SerendipiD, welcome aboard! You did a great job on the Model 15-91? I can't tell for sure, but the picture looks like maybe a potted motor, which means a 15-91!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam
    If you can assemble a quilt you can do this: I would take the whole thing apart - yup take it apart. No kids. No pets. No DH. 'o/ Keep a muffin pan around and put the parts in it in order as you take it off. Use the tension diagram in the manual. A lot of the old manuals have instructions to take the tension apart and put it back together. (The first time I did one I was very nervous - I shook the whole time.) Just go slow - look at it carefully as you go. Clean EVERYTHING real good and put it back together according to the diagram. I amaze myself every time I do one. I don't even need the diagram anymore. I just routinely clean the tension when I get an old machine. Dried up oil can cause drag and rust or burrs can break threads - dust bunnies need to come out all makes the tension messed.. Hey if nothing else you can run some dental floss through there and pick up some of it. I just like the feel of it when I've taken it apart and cleaned it. Keep another machine right next to you so you can look at it as you reassemble. Here is an expanded diagram. It is the only one I know of with the picture of the pin. It is from sewclassic's catalog - I hope Jenny doesn't mind. http://shop.sew-classic.com/Tension-...572-125417.htm I posted it a couple pages back as well. If it doesn't go back together right take it apart and do it again. Pay attention to how that spring goes when you take it apart and in the diagram and in the other machine you have next to you. You can do this. You have made quilts. You have cooked. Go slow and don't worry it has been done before. If it is any help the service manual has about the same instructions as the owner's manual. They must have meant for the owner to take that tension apart on occasion. I do have one that doesn't work. It needs some adjustment on the presser lever. I haven't done that - the machine isn't turning and needs a total spa treatment some time.

    Thanks Miriam! Yanno, I have taken the tension apart on other machines but come to think of it I'm not sure if I ever did on these ones :?: Sometimes life gets in the way and I forget which avenue I was going down :lol: Tonight I'm disassembling the tension on the black 301 and cleaning it :thumbup:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostn51
    Take the motor off and flip it over so that the oil can drain out of the holes. You might need to shake the snot out of it every once in a while but if you leave it upside down for a day or two it should drain out. It will however smoke like the dickens when you get the rascal back on and running again until all of the oil is out.

    Billy
    Billy, did the doctor release you? How is that snake bite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hootnannie
    I'm always looking at CL and wish I could afford this beauty. I've not seen a cabinet like this before... gorgeous!!
    http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/atq/2472363807.html
    Wow, wouldn't that be cool to own! Out of my price range, though!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathie S.
    I had issues with my FW also. I got discouraged and sold it to Nancy for what I paid for it. Nancy, being the wonderful person that she is, would not stop working on it until she found out the problem. She took a flashlight and tweezers and worked on it for a long time and found a long hair in the bobbin area. That fixed the tension problem. Kathie
    Wow, Kathie, I had forgotten about that hair! That was one very very long hair wrapped all up in the tension! Those FW's have no room for things like thread, hair, etc., they are just so small and so precisely made that just a hair can mess them up!

    Nancy

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    Start with the bottom tension. When you get it set right, THEN set the top. If you're unsure how to set the bobbin tension, there are several checklists online that will help.

    Quote Originally Posted by jtapp9
    So, do you ever really get a perfect tension on the old machines? I have a black 301 that I LUV. I use it but the tension has always been a "tad" off. There is always a tiny bit showing either top or bottom. And my top tension will be awful if I do anything other than between 0-1

    I have a tan 301 that i'm not so in love with. Doesn't sound the same as the black one and I just can't bond with it yet. I can NOT get the tension even remotely good on this one. It's "ok" but not right. I'm tempted to pop it in the cabinet and use it just to be using it and hoping it works out some on it's own. I'm seriously thiking of sending it to Billy in a few months for a makeover. I love red. Maybe I would LUV it in red :)

    Now I know why I would always hear my mom bit*hing about the tension :oops:

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