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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace View Post
    I imagine it has to do with the treadling somehow then and maybe the movement to get it to sew would need some practice? You're certain that what you have in it is the 206 x 13 needle? Glen will have to chime in with his thoughts on it. I'm sure between all the brain surgeons here, we'll give you some things to try:> Happy Turkey Day.
    Candace you are such a sweet person, I had to laugh when I read this! Two years ago, I would have agreed with you that the 'treadling' could affect the stitch quality, but I know better now. Yes, bad treadling will cause endless frustration with going forward, backward, breaking thread, stopping, starting, but not the quality of the stitch. Two years ago, I was a terrible treadler! I just went forward, backward, broke a ton of thread! No, I am a pretty good treadler now that I do the majority of my sewing on any one of my 15 treadles! I wish it were that easy! Unless, the belt is slipping, but that wouldn't cause skipped stitches or elongated stitches would it - anyone? I think there is something I am not adjusting, doing that is causing the skipped stitches. I wish I understood the 'bight' controller a little better. I don't give up easily - I will figure it out! Now I wish I'd of kept the motor just to try the motor against the treadle!

    Nancy
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    Quote Originally Posted by brushandthimble View Post
    I made a mistake; what I have is a Singer 1908 Sphinex. The gold decales are in real good condition, just covered with dust and dirt. Without a picture to post, don't know why I get "failed" message when trying to upload the picture. Am trying to find out which model, maybe a 27? Seems the Sphinex decals were put on a couple of different models?
    Brushandthimble, what is your serial number?

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crossstitcher View Post
    Nancy I am in aggrement you will need the 206X13 needle also I had to take a spare needle clamp screw and put in the bight knob. To screw it down tight. Also I set the bight on #1 and got mine to sew nice. Try this and see what you get.
    Thank you Trish, I will have to find a screw to fit into the 'Bight' control where mine is missing, but my machine missing the screw shouldn't effect the quality of the stitch should it? That screw is just a lock screw right? My 'Bight' controller has the numbers '0' to '5' - I don't see a number '1'? I think some of the numbering has worn off over the last 50 years. Where do you see a #1 on the 'bight' control dial?

    Nancy

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    Thank you Nancy we had a great Thanksgiviing. I only use 206x13 needles but I did try 15x1 and it worked with no problem. I read on the net somewhere about the 15x1 in the 319 and it said it would work so I tried and it did. I wish I could remember where I read it. When I first put the 15x1 I turn the wheel by hand really slow to make sure it would work. Although I am not comfortable with the15x1 and will cont. to use 206x13. I can't see why the 80/20 would cause skipping stitches. I usually follow the instructions in the manual. I must be lucky so far no problems with my machine yet. I am really learning on this machine to.
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    The 15 x 1 needles will hit the bobbin case and nick it over time. The 15 x 1 needles are longer and not made for this machine. Proof of this is that all of the 319's I've ever seen have had original bobbin cases that look partially chewed on. So, not a good idea;> Nancy, is it possible the hook assembly was knocked during travel and or being put into the table? Maybe a good knock did something to the timing. I've never touched the "bite" of the 319 and have had no stitchout problems. If the heavier needle doesn't help, then the other option would be to tweak the hook assembly a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie1 View Post
    Had a schedule change and was able to get the penetrating oil and apply it to the 401a. It just got quieter and faster and away it went. So I believe it is now it is fixed. Applied new machine oil and lubricant where indicated in the book.
    Thanks to everyone who has helped me on the "fix" of this machine. jb
    I'm so glad you tried the simple fix first! It was cheap too!
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    I'm watching your Singer 319 stitch issues conversation with great interest. I still have more to do to get mine to work. I've been really busy on other things and other machines lately. Yesterday I got a lot done so I'm down to just a couple machines. Mr. Ed (319) has gone back up to the top of the repair line! I have needles now but I forgot to order a belt. I have a hand crank so I may test that out on it. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be sitting there with the manual in one hand trying to figure out the bite thing since I turned it. I found another 319 on CL but they don't have contact info and don't answer emails. Maybe it is sold and they haven't taken it down.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Brushandthimble, what is your serial number?

    Nancy
    V14632 I will try again tonight when I get home to post a picture.
    After 2 years with the same signature I have been requested to remove it. Bye

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    Quote Originally Posted by brushandthimble View Post
    V14632 I will try again tonight when I get home to post a picture.
    According to Singer records your machine is a 15K made in Jan.-June 1908. Does your machine have the tension assembly on the face plate?
    Judy

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    Good Morning everybody! Hope your Thanksgiving was a good one!

    I just bought a 1970 Singer Touch and Sew for $5.00. I cleaned it up and plugged it in and she ran, A little clackity until I oiled her and let her set awhile. Now she sounds so purty and peaceful. Poor thing is missing some of her parts and I can't find what I need on e-bay or the Sibger co site. Anyone out there got any cams you want to sell or a cover plate and a straight stitch plate? I may spend a little money on this machine because I really like how she sounds and there is an on/ff/slow/fast button! I love it!! I also need a bobbin or two!
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    Quote Originally Posted by missgigglewings View Post
    Good Morning everybody! Hope your Thanksgiving was a good one!

    I just bought a 1970 Singer Touch and Sew for $5.00. I cleaned it up and plugged it in and she ran, A little clackity until I oiled her and let her set awhile. Now she sounds so purty and peaceful. Poor thing is missing some of her parts and I can't find what I need on e-bay or the Sibger co site. Anyone out there got any cams you want to sell or a cover plate and a straight stitch plate? I may spend a little money on this machine because I really like how she sounds and there is an on/ff/slow/fast button! I love it!! I also need a bobbin or two!
    If she takes the top hat cams,I have some extras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    I'm watching your Singer 319 stitch issues conversation with great interest. I still have more to do to get mine to work. I've been really busy on other things and other machines lately. Yesterday I got a lot done so I'm down to just a couple machines. Mr. Ed (319) has gone back up to the top of the repair line! I have needles now but I forgot to order a belt. I have a hand crank so I may test that out on it. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be sitting there with the manual in one hand trying to figure out the bite thing since I turned it. I found another 319 on CL but they don't have contact info and don't answer emails. Maybe it is sold and they haven't taken it down.
    Miriam, I am really curious how it goes with your 319 when you get a chance to play with your machine. I love the looks of the 319, and the fact that my 319 had a motorectomy and sits in a treadle, but I am a little frustrated right now with the machine. I need to sit and try different fabrics and play with the 'bight' control some more. I also need to order some more needles in a larger size than a 80/12 and see if that makes a difference. Candace may have a point, something is out of adjustment with the move and set up of the machine, although, I didn't drop her or anything?

    Nancy

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    My son got the motor housing apart on the turquoise Universal. It was very hard to separate. The cord attachment (it needs a new cord) is too far in the housing for me to get at. Also a set of brushes that I see no space for fell out. Time to call in the cavalry. I will call my retired Elna repairman - if he won't do it, then I only have the guy in the store downtown. Wish me luck. I want to sew on this one badly and, no, I don't care to treadle it which I doubt is an option anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missgigglewings View Post
    Good Morning everybody! Hope your Thanksgiving was a good one!

    I just bought a 1970 Singer Touch and Sew for $5.00. I cleaned it up and plugged it in and she ran, A little clackity until I oiled her and let her set awhile. Now she sounds so purty and peaceful. Poor thing is missing some of her parts and I can't find what I need on e-bay or the Sibger co site. Anyone out there got any cams you want to sell or a cover plate and a straight stitch plate? I may spend a little money on this machine because I really like how she sounds and there is an on/ff/slow/fast button! I love it!! I also need a bobbin or two!
    Hi,
    I have a couple T&S 600 series your welcome to parts from if there for the cost of mailing. They seem like nice machines but on both the plastic gears deteriorated and broke. Gears are available but it seemed more trouble than it's worth. Good luck with yours
    Jon

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    Check out this spinning wheel! I know we are not a knitting site, but a lot of quilters knit too. I don't but this is just the coolest thing. Too bad I don't live near Vancouver and don't have room for this in my house.
    http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bn...652677355.html

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    I made mine with the plastic strapping I cut off a box shipped to me. It's probably about 3/8" wide or so.
    Quote Originally Posted by Weedwoman View Post
    I couldn't find anything that was recommended for the project (boning or the heavy strapping used for shipping) so I raided my cupboard and found an empty margerine container and cut strips, stitched them end to end on Elaine and covered the strip with batting and it worked great. Pretty cheap way to go. I live in a very small town with basically zero shopping options so you make do but I kind of like putting the old brain to work like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misseva View Post
    Now if I could just figure out how to put the belt on. Anyone out there know where I could get picture instructions?
    Treadle belt is pretty easy and instructions sometimes come with belt. Here's what I'd do if I didn't have the 3n1 treadle pliers:
    ---Get proper size belt in natural leather (stay away from red) from SM supply, ebay or.....
    ---wrap belt around treadle pulley and SM pulley and pull tight and cut where ends meet (don't worry about cutting short the belt will stretch)
    ---examine wire staple that comes with belt, get drill bit slightly bigger than staple diameter and drill hole in each end of belt half the width of staple (so holes are width of staple when belt is put together)
    ---Put staple thru one end of belt and crimp tight on other end leave alone.
    ---Put belt on machine with uncrimped staple end facing up and run treadle for a few minutes
    ---Belt will stretch and cut off belt at hole at uncrimped end and drill another hole half width of staple
    ---might have to do this 2-3 times till belt is broken in
    ---crimp second end when belt seems stable and belt doesn't slip but not overly tight
    ---imagine Youtube and google would also have info on this.
    Good Luck, it sort of a fun process
    Jon
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    Phoenix Sewing Machine

    Quote Originally Posted by jlhmnj View Post
    Found this image with a beautiful handmade treadle cabinet:
    http://tidytipsy.wordpress.com/2010/...part-1-oiling/
    Also some older machines similar to a Singer 27 Vibrating shuttle and a 50's ZZ machine. Few images on google search "phoenix sewing machine german", but not alot. Good luck, I'm sure it's a well made machine but couldn't pinpoint who made the older versions.
    Jon
    Not sure what information you are looking for, but I have a Phoenix, as does a friend of mine. She knows more about them than I do, but to me they really resemble the WW machines more than any other. I know that
    Baer & Rempel manufactured the newer Phoenix machines, but not sure if they made the treadles or not--I will ask a friend who knows more about them than I do.

    There's an overpriced one on Ebay right now: http://www.ebay.com/itm/PHOENIX-TREA...09541593802939

    Johnny
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    Quote Originally Posted by missgigglewings View Post
    Good Morning everybody! Hope your Thanksgiving was a good one!

    I just bought a 1970 Singer Touch and Sew for $5.00. I cleaned it up and plugged it in and she ran, A little clackity until I oiled her and let her set awhile. Now she sounds so purty and peaceful. Poor thing is missing some of her parts and I can't find what I need on e-bay or the Sibger co site. Anyone out there got any cams you want to sell or a cover plate and a straight stitch plate? I may spend a little money on this machine because I really like how she sounds and there is an on/ff/slow/fast button! I love it!! I also need a bobbin or two!
    I've got some extra needle plates. I will look later today but I know there's at least one straight stitch needle plate and possibly a ZZ needle plate. Yours for the postage unless it's under $2.00. PM me if interested.
    I meant to behave......but there were too many other options

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    Miriam, the hand crank assembly won't work on the 206/306/319 machines unless you drill new holes. The motor mount hole is not in the same position as other old Singers.
    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    I'm watching your Singer 319 stitch issues conversation with great interest. I still have more to do to get mine to work. I've been really busy on other things and other machines lately. Yesterday I got a lot done so I'm down to just a couple machines. Mr. Ed (319) has gone back up to the top of the repair line! I have needles now but I forgot to order a belt. I have a hand crank so I may test that out on it. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be sitting there with the manual in one hand trying to figure out the bite thing since I turned it. I found another 319 on CL but they don't have contact info and don't answer emails. Maybe it is sold and they haven't taken it down.
    Miz Johnny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miz Johnny View Post
    Miriam, the hand crank assembly won't work on the 206/306/319 machines unless you drill new holes. The motor mount hole is not in the same position as other old Singers.
    Well I just found that out the hard way... Bummer. I LOVE the table it came in so I think we will wire it back up. I got it out, looked at the hand crank and figured out it wasn't going to work. Then I got a call to sell a machine so I took care of that - time to finish the bread sticks for DGDs - we do family gathering today. WHOA..... Fast breaking NEWS! just got a call..... I think DD might be in labor!!!!!!!!!!! I sure hope so - this one would be a week early instead of 2 weeks late like the others. She might go a while, quit and start up..... keeping my fingers crossed that she just plain old has this one right soon.
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    Charlee, I painted one of my cabinets bright red because it's the first one I got and I wanted it in my Mickey Mouse room. It houses a Sewmor machine and looks really cute in with all my MM stuff. I painted an old straight back chair all black put a red cushion on the seat and MM decals on the back of the chair. So, I'd say feel free to get creative and do what you need to do to your cabinet. That's part of the fun.

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    Belts
    About 20 years ago I bought “new” leathers for my 104 and 114 machines and the leather was old I guess. They kept breaking, and I hate the replacing the clips. I went to my air condition/ plumbing supply and bought regular fan belts from them. I have never a problem since.
    I called all over town and found one long and thin enough to fit my 29-4 but I had to cut it to get it on the machine. That was not easy to clip together

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    Hey beanie, its not a wheel. Its a device for winding spun yarn into hanks. I don't know what they are called but the hand version is a niddy-noddy. Niddy noddy, niddy noddy, two heads, one body. How cool to see one.
    Life is made up of bits and pieces. You won't know how it'll turn out till its done.

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    New to the collection our Singer Sphinx

    My DD's mission for this morning was to go look and perhaps buy a Sphinx. Success. She is a beautiful girl under all of that old hardened oil. We are so happy. She comes into the house tonight for cleaning and oiling (currently in the garage in hiding. DH does not understand our passion). Her serial number is K311054, born in 1902 we think. We will be calling Singer on Monday to get actual birth date.
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