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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    Steve,

    I found a chart I made years ago of working space measurements. They are all home machines except the 31-20.

    MACHINE.......... NEEDLE TO ARM
    MODEL...............MEASUREMENT
    Singers
    31-20 10 ”

    403 etc 7 1/8”
    15-90 etc 6 7/8”
    201 8”
    66 8”
    306 etc 7 7/8”
    301 7 ”
    99 6 ”
    128 6 3/8”
    221 5 1/16”


    Other Mfg
    White Rotary 8 1/8”

    MW URR284 7 3/8”

    Wheeler & Wilson 8 7 3/8”
    Mizkaki,

    Thanks for this information, I saved it for reference. Just a question, from where on the needle to where on the arm was the measurements taken? I've got a few I want to measure and add to your list so I want to measure them the same way you did.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    Steve,

    I found a chart I made years ago of working space measurements. They are all home machines except the 31-20.
    <snip>
    Great reference. I just took a couple of other measurements using what looks to be the same technique (at least I got the same values for the 201, 66 and Whites):
    Singer 13 7 7/8"
    Singer 27 8"
    Husqvarna 33-10 8 1/8"
    New Home Model A1 7 5/8"
    New Home Model A3 7 7/8"
    New Home Model U (New National) 6 1/2"
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    Joe,

    I laid a ruler on the bed, butting the end against the arm on the right. I lowered the needle and took between the measurement where the needle hit the ruler. I did round it off a little if the needle hit between the 1/8 " marks.
    Post any measurements that you get so I can add to the list.

    Cathy


    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Mizkaki,

    Thanks for this information, I saved it for reference. Just a question, from where on the needle to where on the arm was the measurements taken? I've got a few I want to measure and add to your list so I want to measure them the same way you did.


    Joe
    Cathy

    "Most sewing machine problems are due to the carbon based unit in the chair in front of the machine"

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    Thanks for these new measurements. I'll add them to my list.
    Two questions first. Is the Viking 33-190 the old heavy, green one or the newer one? Is your Singer 13 the larger version of the Singer 12? If so, the working space should be much larger. Or I am confused as to what the 13 is.

    Cathy


    Quote Originally Posted by pinkCastleDH View Post
    Great reference. I just took a couple of other measurements using what looks to be the same technique (at least I got the same values for the 201, 66 and Whites):
    Singer 13 7 7/8"
    Singer 27 8"
    Husqvarna 33-10 8 1/8"
    New Home Model A1 7 5/8"
    New Home Model A3 7 7/8"
    New Home Model U (New National) 6 1/2"
    Cathy

    "Most sewing machine problems are due to the carbon based unit in the chair in front of the machine"

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    I have an old long bobbin machine - seems like a nice space - I should measure it - it's the biggest one I've seen other than industrial. Any idea what model? It has a motor attached to the back of the machine.
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    Cathy - The Viking is the old, heavy, green thing with the Godzilla finish (and that only ways slightly less than the Tokyo Terror.) The 13 is indeed the 'Medium' machine - slightly larger version of the 12. I just double checked the measurement and you could call it 8" but nothing more. I don't know what the measurement for a 12 is. Just for grins I measured the 48k and it's 6 1/2".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    Thanks for these new measurements. I'll add them to my list.
    Two questions first. Is the Viking 33-190 the old heavy, green one or the newer one? Is your Singer 13 the larger version of the Singer 12? If so, the working space should be much larger. Or I am confused as to what the 13 is.

    Cathy
    Oh, and it's no great surprise that the 101 is also 8".

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    Mirim,

    I believe that your machine is a 127.

    Cathy

    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    I have an old long bobbin machine - seems like a nice space - I should measure it - it's the biggest one I've seen other than industrial. Any idea what model? It has a motor attached to the back of the machine.
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    Cathy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    To those who don't hoard fabric.......this won't make any sense. To those who do hoard...no explanation is necessary.
    Stumbled across this stash at my favorite thrift store. Over 20 yards of batiks for less than $1.50 a yard. SCORE!
    Sure would like to see what the donor kept, since this is the cull.

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    You know, no one ever says to a painter "gee you've got a lot of tubes of paint. why don't you just buy one color when you need it?" Likewise woodworkere, scrap bookers, mixed media people- they all have a stock of materials. I hearby declare that it is not a hoard, it's a PALATE and we need it to keep out creativity jucy. Wicked good score, by the way. Now you have to start sewing it up! Laura

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    I'm really surprised that the Singer Medium has such a small working space when the machine is so large. I have a Bradbury Medium which is almost the same. So I just went and took the measurement on it and it's working space is only 7 7/8" ( I would have lost that bet).
    I dug out my Singer 12 and it's measurement is 6 1/8".

    Anyone else have a machine we haven't listed?

    Cathy



    Quote Originally Posted by pinkCastleDH View Post
    Cathy - The Viking is the old, heavy, green thing with the Godzilla finish (and that only ways slightly less than the Tokyo Terror.) The 13 is indeed the 'Medium' machine - slightly larger version of the 12. I just double checked the measurement and you could call it 8" but nothing more. I don't know what the measurement for a 12 is. Just for grins I measured the 48k and it's 6 1/2".
    Cathy

    "Most sewing machine problems are due to the carbon based unit in the chair in front of the machine"

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    Laura,

    I know that I said I needed to "find a project to use this fabric on".
    But don't jump to any conclusions, I didn't say I was going to actually sew.

    Cathy



    Quote Originally Posted by nurseknitsLaura View Post
    You know, no one ever says to a painter "gee you've got a lot of tubes of paint. why don't you just buy one color when you need it?" Likewise woodworkere, scrap bookers, mixed media people- they all have a stock of materials. I hearby declare that it is not a hoard, it's a PALATE and we need it to keep out creativity jucy. Wicked good score, by the way. Now you have to start sewing it up! Laura
    Cathy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    I'm really surprised that the Singer Medium has such a small working space when the machine is so large. I have a Bradbury Medium which is almost the same. So I just went and took the measurement on it and it's working space is only 7 7/8" ( I would have lost that bet).
    I dug out my Singer 12 and it's measurement is 6 1/8".

    Anyone else have a machine we haven't listed?

    Cathy
    Two more. The 115 is also 6 7/8" and the New Home CZ (which is probably the same as the Anker RZ) is 6 3/4".

    I suppose I could measure the Willcox & Gibbs . We have some German hand crank machines as well but I have figured out model numbers on them yet so the measurements wouldn't mean much.

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    Welcome to the friendliest board on the 'net! No matter what your question, you will find someone on here who knows the right answer. Most of us are addicts who don't want to be cured. LOL! We have more than a few vintage machines and love them. You really can't have one or two! I've got a 1925 66 treadle, a 1907 27 treadle, and a 1951 15 electric, as well as an assortment of other things! I love and use them all for different things. DH always asks what I plan on doing with each one I bring home. He always gets the same answer--sew, of course. It is an addiction and we are all enablers. Enjoy your time here!

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    Thanks for all those measurements! I have added them to my list.

    Cathy


    Quote Originally Posted by pinkCastleDH View Post
    Two more. The 115 is also 6 7/8" and the New Home CZ (which is probably the same as the Anker RZ) is 6 3/4".

    I suppose I could measure the Willcox & Gibbs . We have some German hand crank machines as well but I have figured out model numbers on them yet so the measurements wouldn't mean much.
    Cathy

    "Most sewing machine problems are due to the carbon based unit in the chair in front of the machine"

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    Hi, I have a question, will the spoked hand wheel from a 128 fit a 99k?
    Thank you,
    Anamaria

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    Anamaria,

    Yes, it will.

    Cathy

    Quote Originally Posted by grayhare View Post
    Hi, I have a question, will the spoked hand wheel from a 128 fit a 99k?
    Thank you,
    Anamaria
    Cathy

    "Most sewing machine problems are due to the carbon based unit in the chair in front of the machine"

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    Cathy, Thank you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    Joe,

    I laid a ruler on the bed, butting the end against the arm on the right. I lowered the needle and took between the measurement where the needle hit the ruler. I did round it off a little if the needle hit between the 1/8 " marks.
    Post any measurements that you get so I can add to the list.

    Cathy
    Cathy,

    I've added pinkCastleDH's measurements and as soon as I get some done I'll post them.

    Joe

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    [QUOTE=Mizkaki;5617263]Laura,

    I know that I said I needed to "find a project to use this fabric on".
    But don't jump to any conclusions, I didn't say I was going to actually sew. [quote]

    Ah come on Cathy, you can find a nice project to work on at the next "Girls Night Out!" Everyone, our local TOGA/sewing machine repair guru joined us at our last "Girls Night Out!" We are trying to get her hooked on coming once a month! Now she has the fabric to make a darling quilt, or tote, or purse, something! No excuses not to come and sew Cathy! We all know you won't have a problem finding a machine to bring!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant15clone View Post
    Nancy, it is 5-737-346. It was purchased new on Oct 11, 1957 in Palatine, Il. It came with a lot of paperwork on it but it has an owners manual for a 230 and a manual that is for models 332-260. I guess they may not have one specific for the 229. (?) Do you have a good source for a size wheel for the Pfaff?
    I had to purchase a stitch wheel for my Pfaff 260 off of e-bay. Those wheels are very hard to find and a little pricey when you do find one, but if you can find one reasonably priced - I'd get it! Or you could just find a second Pfaff that comes with a stitch wheel. I now have two stitch wheels, but they are different! The stitch wheel I purchased for my 260, which is a 1961 machine, is not the same as the stitch wheel that came with my 230, which is a 1958 machine!

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    Well everyone, my new Pfaff 230 came yesterday! As usual Miriam packed that machine so well it could have been dropped from a high rise! I had a time cutting the machine out of the packing, bubble wrap, styrofoam!

    Miriam, the machine arrived in perfect condition! I will take photos as soon as I can of both my new Pfaff 230, and Pfaff 360! The 230 came with attachments, the stitch wheel, everything it needs. My 360 came with nothing but the case! Geeze, does that machine need a stitch wheel too? I haven't had a chance to really look at the machine because I have not shown it to hubby yet!

    If you guys want to purchase a machine that has to be shipped - get it from Miriam! She is the best at packing those things! These Pfaff's weigh close to 45 pounds each! Thank you Miriam!

    Nancy

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    Here are some measurements!

    Davis Vertical Feed from 1899 - 8.5 inches
    New Davis Vertical Feed 1919 - 8 inches

    Eldredge Two Spools - 8 inches

    Singer 319w - 8 inches
    Rocketeer 503a - 7.25 inches
    Singer 401a - 7.25 inches
    Spartan - 6.25 inches
    Pfaff 230 - 8 inches
    Pfaff 260 - 8 inches
    Pfaff 1222e - 7.75 inches

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Well everyone, my new Pfaff 230 came yesterday! As usual Miriam packed that machine so well it could have been dropped from a high rise! I had a time cutting the machine out of the packing, bubble wrap, styrofoam!

    Miriam, the machine arrived in perfect condition! I will take photos as soon as I can of both my new Pfaff 230, and Pfaff 360! The 230 came with attachments, the stitch wheel, everything it needs. My 360 came with nothing but the case! Geeze, does that machine need a stitch wheel too? I haven't had a chance to really look at the machine because I have not shown it to hubby yet!

    If you guys want to purchase a machine that has to be shipped - get it from Miriam! She is the best at packing those things! These Pfaff's weigh close to 45 pounds each! Thank you Miriam!

    Nancy
    Stitch wheel was included. The accessories are to rave about. The manual was even there but very fragile. I hope you can get the machine to do the decorative stitches. It might need a bit of work - a challenge for you Nancy - maybe Ray White's class will be in your future.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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    More measurements...this was an interesting adventure!

    I took a piece of paper and went around to all my machines. Lined the edge up against the machine and dropped the needle, wrote the name of the machine next to the needle hole. It was interesting to see how they compare.

    You already had most of mine.

    White Rotary 8 1/8
    Franklin treadle 8 Same as my Singer 66
    New Home Light Running treadle 7 7/8 Same as the NH AC
    Minnehaha by National 7 3/4
    Necchi BU Supernova 7 1/4
    Kenmore 158.523 7
    DeLuxe Emporium 7

    And my current every day machine is a Kenmore with a throat space of a measly 6 1/8 inches. I never really thought of how little space there is there.

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    http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/cs...369804471.html

    1872 Antique American Sewing Machine Company, Machine & Table. Machine Cover. No. 55602. Bag of parts included. Cash only. $75.



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