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    I just got the pitman for my 1919 Singer treadle...YEAH! Thanks to a good friend who is also my son-in-law's granny. When I had told her that I still needed to get one, she said she might have one in the shed. They {DD and DSIL} checked Fri. evening before heading this way. He put it on for me last night. It turns that wheel real nice. I just bought the kerosene last week to get it cleaned out. Can't wait to get it cleaned, oiled and all together to sew on it. {my HC SERATA too!}

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    Billy or anyone else who may know,

    Will a Rocketeer (Singer 501a) work in a treadle? Will there be enough clearance for the belt at the base of the machine? I was reading this blog where this person took a modern Kenmore that he had removed the drive belt from the motor and put the machine in a treadle. He didn't need to do that with the belt. He states that all he had to do was simple pull the knob out to disengage the electric motor. So, after reading this, I though could this be done with a Rocketeer. Has anyone tried this?

    http://www.mushycat.com/wiki/index.p...moreConversion

    Jetsons meets the Flintstones...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif
    Billy or anyone else who may know,

    Will a Rocketeer (Singer 501a) work in a treadle? Will there be enough clearance for the belt at the base of the machine? I was reading this blog where this person took a modern Kenmore that he had removed the drive belt from the motor and put the machine in a treadle. He didn't need to do that with the belt. He states that all he had to do was simple pull the knob out to disengage the electric motor. So, after reading this, I though could this be done with a Rocketeer. Has anyone tried this?

    http://www.mushycat.com/wiki/index.p...moreConversion

    Jetsons meets the Flintstones...
    I have not seen this done with a 500, but didn't Sharon in TX do this with a 328?? It uses the flat Singer cams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunkQuilter
    Has anyone ever seen or own or know anything about this one?

    It seems 'all wrong'.http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-PORTABLE...item483ee8623e
    Singer did the brownish crinkle finish on a FW too during the War, but I have only seen one in a picture. If you ever see a FW with that color/finish cheap, buy it! Those machines are extremely rare. The gal that taught the FW maintenance class has been looking actively for a brown/crinkle FW for probably 40 + years.

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miz Johnny
    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif
    Billy or anyone else who may know,

    Will a Rocketeer (Singer 501a) work in a treadle? Will there be enough clearance for the belt at the base of the machine? I was reading this blog where this person took a modern Kenmore that he had removed the drive belt from the motor and put the machine in a treadle. He didn't need to do that with the belt. He states that all he had to do was simple pull the knob out to disengage the electric motor. So, after reading this, I though could this be done with a Rocketeer. Has anyone tried this?

    http://www.mushycat.com/wiki/index.p...moreConversion

    Jetsons meets the Flintstones...
    I have not seen this done with a 500, but didn't Sharon in TX do this with a 328?? It uses the flat Singer cams.
    Wow, I would never think this possible! What is a 'vegan' belt? Some kind of veggie belt? Some people have such an imagination! Can you imagine what our foresisters/fathers would say with us all trying to go backwards in time/technology?

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathie S.
    Billy I went to this site and printed it out. It came out the size of a postage stamp. How do I make it bigger so I can read it? Kathie
    Kathy what site are you talking about? If it printed out tiny, I'd think that is caused by something on your side? Printer? Computer settings? Did you get it addressed and printed out the right way? You should use "Quote Reply" to copy part of the text you are referring to so we know what you are referring to in your question.

    Hope you got it fixed.

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miz Johnny
    I have not seen this done with a 500, but didn't Sharon in TX do this with a 328?? It uses the flat Singer cams.
    Sharon what page is your 328 pictured so we can look at how you turned the 328 into treadle?

    Nancy

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    Jetsons meets the Flintstones...[/quote]

    I have not seen this done with a 500, but didn't Sharon in TX do this with a 328?? It uses the flat Singer cams.[/quote]

    I did it with a Singer 237, it had a belt driven motor and it works great; it doesn't take cams and does only zig zag and straight stitch. I think you could treadle any of the machines that have that configuration. The 328 I don't know about.
    I've seen the 216g,319,206,306 treadled.
    The Singer 500,401,403 & 503 all have gear driven internal
    motors and can't be treadled.
    You see a picture of my Singer 237 that I treadle, I had to use the original handwheel(has a deep belt groove) as the shaft on the 237 is a bit larger diameter and the old Singer spoked wheel wouldn't fit.
    Sharon W. in Texas

    Singer 237 housed in a 1890s coffin top treadle cabinet. The thingy that's clothespinned on is a head light that replaced the light that was on the former electric machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles
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    Wow, I would never think this possible! What is a 'vegan' belt? Some kind of veggie belt? Some people have such an imagination! Can you imagine what our foresisters/fathers would say with us all trying to go backwards in time/technology?

    Nancy
    The Vegan belt that article talks about is polyurethane, the yellow belt you see on the machine.
    Sharon W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luv2learn
    Quote Originally Posted by Lostn51
    Quote Originally Posted by luv2learn
    Billy, It seems you like a lot of machines that are not Singer. . . I seem to find a lot that are not singer and just wondered, are parts for other machines available? For instance, I just saw a photo of a Standard treadle, the guy says, "oh yea it IS 140 years old but other than needing a belt, I'm sure it's fine." Are singer parts, interchangeale with other brands? For instance if a machine doesn't have a bobbin case or bobbin? or throat plate or throat plate extension, etc.
    Nothing will interchange from Singer to any other machine that I know of. Even the screws for the Singers were proprietary. Your only hope is to find several machines like each other so you can use them for parts or find one that is functionable.

    Billy
    What about singer to singer. . Where could I find info to tell me which Singer parts are interchangeable with which machines?

    Also, have you done the tutorial using the 500A yet, and what is it called, so I can view it? Thanx
    There are lots of Singer to Singer swaps but the list is so long and so many parts will interchange it would be a daunting task at best to come up with a list. Maybe after I get a few things done around here and these 3 articles written I will work on the interchange. But that will take several months and lots of hours to do.

    But in the meantime I have to expand my studio (1600sqft) which I am already starting on. Then I have a lots of customers machines to work on along with 3 quilt shops I keep stocked in repaints. Oh I almost forgot I have a 1940 Ford Coupe being dropped off here this week for me to fab and replace a few body panels, put the floors in and paint.

    I love this time of year and with spring coming it is going to be a good year for me!

    Billy

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplefiend
    Jetsons meets the Flintstones...
    I think you could treadle any of the machines that have that configuration. The 328 I don't know about.
    I've seen the 216g,319,206,306 treadled.

    Sharon W. in Texas[/quote]

    The 319 and 306 both take the "newer" flat cams; there are lots of them out there!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miz Johnny
    Quote Originally Posted by purplefiend
    Jetsons meets the Flintstones...
    I think you could treadle any of the machines that have that configuration. The 328 I don't know about.
    I've seen the 216g,319,206,306 treadled.

    Sharon W. in Texas
    The 319 and 306 both take the "newer" flat cams; there are lots of them out there!![/quote]

    That is great! I will keep an eye out for one of them.

    I get the impression that this guy thought his modern machine was gear driven and was looking for a way to by-pass that, but discovered after taking off the side plate around the wheel that it had a belt. So, I was wondering if the Rocketeer had similar setup. If so and this could be done with the Rocketeer, then my next question is the clearance for the treadle belt since a portion of the base protrudes out from the machine.

    I love his "vegan" belt. I like his ingenuity. And as he stated, he is able to used it on wheels that if a leather treadle belt were to be used they would not work, but the "vegan" belt gives him the friction to keep it from slipping off.

    Miz Johnny and Sharon, Thanks for the information on the other machines!

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplefiend
    The Vegan belt that article talks about is polyurethane, the yellow belt you see on the machine.
    Sharon W.
    Somewhere online I read about people using pantyhose for a belt! Anyone tried that? :?:

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    Quote Originally Posted by sewbizgirl
    Quote Originally Posted by purplefiend
    The Vegan belt that article talks about is polyurethane, the yellow belt you see on the machine.
    Sharon W.
    Somewhere online I read about people using pantyhose for a belt! Anyone tried that? :?:
    I'm pretty sure it would work. I'm using some right now as a door latch. I use them for everything except for clothing!

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    Vintagemotif,
    The Singer 500 is totally gear driven, no belts anywhere.
    Sharon W.

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    I should have used my vintage machine, but NOooooo, I had the new fancy schmancy machine set up, so I tried to hem my son's jeans with it.
    What a princess! and I don't mean that in a good way. As soon as the seam got to the big hump - where the seam and the previous hem overlapped, she balked - big time. Broke the needle twice. Ended up hand cranking it through the hard part - and that was with the walking foot engaged.
    Dang computers!
    My vintage would have blazed the trail with no problem. At least I know for next time.

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    Has anyone here ever heard of a Betsy Ross machine? I assume that's the brand name...

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    Anyone recognize the model of the feet...oops I mean machine?
    http://fresno.craigslist.org/atq/2211613341.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltnCowgirl
    Anyone recognize the model of the feet...oops I mean machine?
    http://fresno.craigslist.org/atq/2211613341.html
    By the looks of the picture, it looks like a FFS model. Fresh from the shower

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplefiend
    Vintagemotif,
    The Singer 500 is totally gear driven, no belts anywhere.
    Sharon W.
    Thank you! I will look for a machine with a belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltnCowgirl
    Anyone recognize the model of the feet...oops I mean machine?
    http://fresno.craigslist.org/atq/2211613341.html
    Singer 99

    Billy

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    Quote Originally Posted by sewbizgirl
    Has anyone here ever heard of a Betsy Ross machine? I assume that's the brand name...
    That was a brand name of a machine and I think it was a toy if I am not mistaken.

    Billy

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif
    Quote Originally Posted by purplefiend
    Vintagemotif,
    The Singer 500 is totally gear driven, no belts anywhere.
    Sharon W.
    Thank you! I will look for a machine with a belt.
    In a couple of weeks I will have my sale and a few of the machines you guys are looking for are in the mix and are all freshly serviced!! I think there will be 9 or 10 machines on this blowout sale.

    Billy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostn51
    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltnCowgirl
    Anyone recognize the model of the feet...oops I mean machine?
    http://fresno.craigslist.org/atq/2211613341.html
    Singer 99

    Billy
    Billy - I'm very impressed. You know your machines. I'm just beginning to recognize some of them from the front, usually not the back, and especially not from that poor picture. Course, maybe I was too distracted by the feet. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donna Mare
    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltnCowgirl
    Anyone recognize the model of the feet...oops I mean machine?
    http://fresno.craigslist.org/atq/2211613341.html
    By the looks of the picture, it looks like a FFS model. Fresh from the shower


    :lol: :lol:

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