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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles
    Quote Originally Posted by Crossstitcher
    Thanks everyone for the information on the monogramer. I'll be looking for one now. I sew more than quilts so it will come in handy.
    Thanks again.
    Trish it is nice to put your initials on your projects for the future generations! I always put my name/initials and year on my quilts/projects just so the kids will know I made those things. Besides, they have quilts from the 1700's - it is amazing that our projects will outlive us - so for posterity it is nice to have a date and name/initials on each project!

    Nancy
    That is a great idea! I just used the permanent fabric marking pen, but I like this idea.

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    My husband just bought me a sewing machine at a yard sale the serial number is AE639530. I find out it was made in the 30s but dont know how to figure the model no. Can anyone help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitzone
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    Green Sphinx Update: Pictures ~ I talked the owner into letting me clean and polish her, so with her permission I am posting some pictures.

    I compared the decals to my Sphinx and they are the same decal just tinted differently. I previously wondered if it could be like the Brown Lotus - paint color tint issue making it more rare???

    Does anyone have any ideas? SN# C7770783 which indicates that it was manufactured in Prussia Germany - but the records have been lost.

    Judy
    Judy Wow, at first glance I thought - reproduction - NOT! That machine is so pristine! It is a 127, made in Prussia sometime after 1908. I have not seen one that color -- all I can say is WOW and WOW. I wonder what Billy or Miz Johnny have to say? I wonder if it was repainted?

    Nancy
    Nancy ~ I am sure it hasn't been repainted. The owner is 83 years old and said that it belonged to her mother. Her family came from a Dutch/German heritage so that fits. I would be interested in what Billy or Miz Johnny could add :) I've not seen one this color nor as nice... it's going to be hard to return but maybe she'll consider selling it sometime.

    Judy
    I too thought at first this was a reproduction. Very pretty machine and the decals are gorgeous.

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    While browsing in an antique shop today I came across some Singer buttonholers. Both are complete sets, including manuals. One has the Singer Brand on it, it's manual has a 1948 copyright, and it is priced at $7.50. The second one is in a Singer case, has a manual distributed by Singer, a 1956 copyright, but the brand name on the buttonholer & manual is Griest. It's price is $15.00.

    What I'm wondering is if either one of these will work for my Featherweight and/or 15-91? If yes, which one would you get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phyllis b
    My husband just bought me a sewing machine at a yard sale the serial number is AE639530. I find out it was made in the 30s but dont know how to figure the model no. Can anyone help?
    Singer 15. Here is the link to the page with info:http://www.singerco.com/support/serial_2letter.html. Find
    column on right with red lettering, and then click on AE series, then scroll through to find group where your number falls into:
    AE-618391-658390 15 40000 September 1 1937

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    Here is my latest quilt, Eagle Scout quilt, that I pieced with my Eldredge Two Spools, quilted with Singer 201K, attached binding with Davis NVF, and finished off with decorative stitch from Singer 238K- all in treadles. I love my vintage machines and treadling them!

    http://www.quiltingboard.com/t-124834-1.htm

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    While trying to pass the time in the hospital, following a total knee replacement, I kept-up as much of my computer routine as possible, which meant watching CL in several near-by cities. Lo and behold, a Singer 301 for $150. I promptly e-mailed, explained my situation, and asked the seller if the machine could be held while I arranged for someone to pick it up in my behalf. Multiple e-mails to seller and friend and finally got a message from the friend, "Got it."

    I'm home now, and can't wait to see the friend and the new machine. I can do the upper body happy dance, the lower bod will have to wait a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostn51
    Quote Originally Posted by Honchey
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    Hi Nancy, there's been conversation about "blackside" machines and I'm wondering about the "Singer 15" I picked up. You commented about it regarding the Potted vs bolted motors. Are there partial blackside machines? My 15 has the black tensioner ,stitch regulator and the handwheel is all black. the face plate and bobbin cover are chrome.. I think. Would this be considered a blackside? Anne
    No, the true blackside machines had all black throat plates, face plates, feet, etc. They were made during the war so the machines would not gleam, is what I was told. I think all blacksides are 99's, at least the ones I have seen are all 99's.
    Nancy
    Actually they offered Blackside for all of their models and were made up into the early 50's. I have seen a 15, 99, 128 (the most common one seen) and a Featherweight. But your almost right about the reason for the finish Nancy, it was because Nickle was in high demand by the government so they offered the Blackside models to help with the war effort. But you could still get nickle plated machines during the era. Billy
    Hi, My 15 was made in 1950 and it also has a black threadcutter. I was just very curious. Anne
    Anne I think most of the thread cutters were blackside finish but I may be wrong. There is a member here that has a 15 that is a Blackside. Billy
    Hi, I'm the lady with the blackside 15-91. The normal chrome parts of a 15 are all blackside on this machine (face plate, back cover plate, throat, nobbies, feet, etc.) Apparently, not so many of the 15s were outfitted this way, compared to say... the 127s.

    Seems like everyone is correct. lol. A true (?) blackside machine had all the chrome pieces in the black finish just like Nancy/Billy said. But then it also seems as if Singer had a storehouse of blackside parts and attachments that continued to be put on machines after the war, even when the machines had other chrome parts. Attachments were made out of partial chrome/blackside bits, and blackside attachments can be seen with non-blackside machines.

    A good example is the adjustable binder. Ever notice how you can find that old singer part in all chrome, all blackside, or 1/2 and 1/2 where part of the attachment is chrome and another section of it is blackside??? I have all three in my 'attachment collection' as it were. Singer also, I believe, when they got back to making sewing machines after the war effort, did a lot of refurbishing of machines. Could be that blackside bits, parts, attachments were put on the earlier models during their factory 'refurbishment'. But that is just my conjecture, I do not know for sure. Singer factory history is pretty interesting. I would love to have one of the very few Singer guns.... but that is a WHOLE 'nother thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minnesota newbie
    I was wondering how you post in the vintage machine shop area?I have an opportunity to get a singer 29k2 it has a very long arm,just wanted to know if you can quilt a fmotion with it?I can find pictures but know info as to what it all can do.thank you for your help
    "You will be limited to smaller thread sizes (#92 top and & #69/92 bobbin) The machine you asked about is almost a century old shoe patcher. It has a tiny bobbin and produces very short stitches once you exceed 1/8" of leather. If the foot drive mechanism is worn out you may not get better than 7 or 8 stitches per inch. Its thickness limit is 1/4" under the foot.

    If you can try the machine before you buy it, do so. If the drive puck is worn out (very short stitches at max setting) and the moving parts are rusty, pass on it. If the seller wants more than $100 - $200, pass on it." This is what I found on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowQuilt
    I have a Necchi SuperNova I think the motor is going bad on it. Can you still get motors for these? Will another motor from a different Necchi work? May seem like a strange question but I love the machine and really hate to gid rid of her. :)
    you can take it to a rebuild motor shop and they will rework it for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitzone
    Irishrose - Thank you for the leads on Jolson and Nelco. I did a quick google search and didn't find any photo's that resemble my SM but I will do some further research. Judy
    About a month ago, there was a pristine looking Jolson sewing machine for sale from an estate. The starting bid price was too much for my wallet, but I was interested in it. The history on Jolson and his Nelco brand is actually quite something. A true 'bootstraps' immigrant story of ingenuity and engineering.
    Update: the machine didn't sell and it's up for sale again on Ebay. I just put another bid on it, but the reserve price is not met yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowQuilt
    I have a Necchi SuperNova I think the motor is going bad on it. Can you still get motors for these? Will another motor from a different Necchi work? May seem like a strange question but I love the machine and really hate to gid rid of her. :)
    SnowQuilt, Although I've not done this on a Necchi, I don't know why you couldn't perform a motorectomy.... Depending on your mechanical skills and comfort level,
    the easiest would be to find another Supernova SM to use as a donor.
    Have you considered joining the Necchi Yahoo group as Chris_Quilts and Irishrose had posted earlier to see if they had any suggestions?
    Without knowing what the symptoms are with your motor, start with the simplest solution first: have you oiled your SM and lubricated the motor ?
    Maybe others will have better suggestions for you but please keep us posted on how things work out.

    Judy

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    Thank you miriam I think I'll pass on it .This board is so helpful,wonderful place to learn anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam
    Quote Originally Posted by Minnesota newbie
    I was wondering how you post in the vintage machine shop area?I have an opportunity to get a singer 29k2 it has a very long arm,just wanted to know if you can quilt a fmotion with it?I can find pictures but know info as to what it all can do.thank you for your help
    "You will be limited to smaller thread sizes (#92 top and & #69/92 bobbin) The machine you asked about is almost a century old shoe patcher. It has a tiny bobbin and produces very short stitches once you exceed 1/8" of leather. If the foot drive mechanism is worn out you may not get better than 7 or 8 stitches per inch. Its thickness limit is 1/4" under the foot.

    If you can try the machine before you buy it, do so. If the drive puck is worn out (very short stitches at max setting) and the moving parts are rusty, pass on it. If the seller wants more than $100 - $200, pass on it." This is what I found on it.
    I also found a manual for one similar http://parts.singerco.com/IPinstManuals/29-4.pdf

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    Anyone near Wichita KS need a nice Singer in a pretty bentwood case? Price is good for the condition.
    Tommie

    http://wichita.craigslist.org/atq/2395585010.html

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    Just thought I'd share a couple of photos of a partial set of White Attachments that I found this week. The last Patent Date on the Ruffler indicates Aug 23, 87. The copper colored metal box is a little rusty and the velvet lining has faded but the attachments look to be in good shape. I believe these originally went with the White VS IIb.
    According to the info that I've read, White only made the basic attachments - Many White's would have attachments made by Goodrich, Greist, and Johnson.

    Judy
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    did you see the FW on that same auction? It has a free arm![/quote]

    No, I couldn't find the 222?

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitzone
    Just thought I'd share a couple of photos of a partial set of White Attachments that I found this week. The last Patent Date on the Ruffler indicates Aug 23, 87. The copper colored metal box is a little rusty and the velvet lining has faded but the attachments look to be in good shape. I believe these originally went with the White VS IIb.
    According to the info that I've read, White only made the basic attachments - Many White's would have attachments made by Goodrich, Greist, and Johnson.
    Judy
    I have just that treadle with a partial box as well. My Box is a little different, black in color.
    Tommie

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles
    did you see the FW on that same auction? It has a free arm!
    No, I couldn't find the 222?
    Nancy[/quote]

    Was it a "buy it now"? Those are hard to come by and ultra high priced, at least for my pocketbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif
    Here is my latest quilt, Eagle Scout quilt, that I pieced with my Eldredge Two Spools, quilted with Singer 201K, attached binding with Davis NVF, and finished off with decorative stitch from Singer 238K- all in treadles. I love my vintage machines and treadling them!

    http://www.quiltingboard.com/t-124834-1.htm
    Monica, love the quilt! I like your idea for the binding too! Great job, that young man is very lucky to get a home made quilt!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitzone
    Nancy ~ the dimensions are 14 1/2" X 7". I really didn't know how to classify it because it has similar parts to several different models. Now that you point out the tension disk, I agree it's more like a 66. (Hmmm - makes me wonder what happened to my brain cells and eye sight when I turned 50??)

    Judy
    Well, that is a full size machine for sure!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by lee231
    Went garage saleing today, picked up a 404 with a desk type cabinet, accessories, orginal manual and Zig Zag with the cams and book, all in pretty good shape. Desk needs some work. $15 Gotta shop doing this someday.
    Wow, you got a very good deal! Congratulations!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomilu
    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles
    did you see the FW on that same auction? It has a free arm!
    No, I couldn't find the 222?
    Nancy
    Was it a "buy it now"? Those are hard to come by and ultra high priced, at least for my pocketbook.[/quote]

    it was 699 and I don't see it anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minnesota newbie
    I was wondering how you post in the vintage machine shop area?I have an opportunity to get a singer 29k2 it has a very long arm,just wanted to know if you can quilt a fmotion with it?I can find pictures but know info as to what it all can do.thank you for your help
    Minnesota Newbie, welcome aboard! You already posted here! I don't know about a 29k2, but maybe someone else can help you!

    Nancy

    I see this did get answered!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif
    Quote Originally Posted by miriam
    I saw on line that the 401G can be hooked up to a treadle because of the openings in the base - it would need a different balance wheel though - there is info on line:
    German Singer 401G:
    http://www.toolfool.org/sewing/index.htm

    and

    making it a treadle:
    http://www.toolfool.org/sewing/401G-...d-Electric.htm

    I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to treadle mine - that would be the BOMB!! I wonder where to get a balance wheel like that? Could one be made?

    more on the 400G series
    Same website different page
    http://www.toolfool.org/sewing/German-400.htm
    Thanks for posting this information! Very interesting all the variations to the same machine.

    I purchased a Singer 238k that I have in treadle now. It had option of belt drive motor or treadle. To set up for treadle, all I did was take the belt off the motor and set a treadle belt on the wheel that it came with ( balance wheel with groove for treadle belt). I never thought that I would possibly need to change the wheels because of gears. After reading this blog, I started to wonder if that is needed for my machine too, even if it has a wheel with groove. But if so, too late now since the machine works in the treadle with the wheel that I have.

    Thanks for posting this information. It would be fun to find a 401 to treadle, but if you can't locate a 401 then you may want to hunt for a Singer 328K. Have fun!
    I have a 401G and she would treadle but I need the balance wheel with the groove I wonder if the 238k balance wheel would fit... None of the grooved wheels I have around will fit the shank.

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