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Thread: Vintage Sewing Machine Shop.....Come on in and sit a spell

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Size:  70.6 KBI know just what you mean! Here's my 1957 T Bird with the port hole window...dream car...dream machine!

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    I like that one too. Somewhere on this thread I posted a pic of my 15 clone made by Brother and badged Compac. It is probably a bit older than yours because it has the "old Singer" silhouette. I love the color though - a semi-metallic aqua. It sews a great straight stitch and is quieter than my FW.

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    Yep!! I have heard zippers louder then this machine! And so fast...it is my go-to chain stitching machine. Love it!!

    Do you know what page yours is on...I would love to see it!

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    I just remembered the 15 clone thread. Mine is post #19: http://www.quiltingboard.com/picture...p-t164361.html

    The color is not very true in these pics. If I can find a pic with better color representation I'll come back and post it. The actual color is quite a bit deeper than the 15 clone thread pic shows.

    Here is my original post: http://www.quiltingboard.com/picture...se-t81572.html This one shows the color a bit better.
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    You won't believe what I passed up today. A very old FREE machine with gorgeous decals and a very free moving mechanism. I am scared to death of very early e machines and this Westinghouse motor was old - it was kind of built into the back of the machine. It had a bentwood case which was in worse shape in the machine. The machine was only very dusty and the decals were in good shape. $12.50 and I left it there. There was also a crinkle finish White in a cabinet it didn't belong in, but I'm so over crinkle finishes. I'm still looking to get rid of my 128.

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    Hello everyone, this does not cover sewing machines. But a little humor, I am wondering how many DH's think like mine?
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    Trish, very funny. Don't have a DH so safe for now. I go shopping with my quilting buddies.
    Lisa

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    ooh too funny!!
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    My DH would be in there with me....finding more fabric that I absolutely need to buy to have in the collection.
    I meant to behave......but there were too many other options

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    I found a Wilcox & Gibbs treadle for sale. It would be my first and I find I know nothing about them. The lady said she can only see a number in black that says 1870. I know that isn't the model number. So, basically, 'help'? I am going to go look at it today or tomorrow. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Most of my collection consists of Singers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SewExtremeSeams View Post
    I found a Wilcox & Gibbs treadle for sale. It would be my first and I find I know nothing about them. The lady said she can only see a number in black that says 1870. I know that isn't the model number. So, basically, 'help'? I am going to go look at it today or tomorrow. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Most of my collection consists of Singers.
    that is a nice machine and in a nice cabinet, too. if you don't mind, how much is she selling it for ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by singerguy View Post
    that is a nice machine and in a nice cabinet, too. if you don't mind, how much is she selling it for ?
    She is asking $200. I will be looking at it in the morning. I can't wait. I want to see if it has the glass tensioner on it.

    Linda

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    Quote Originally Posted by SewExtremeSeams View Post
    She is asking $200. I will be looking at it in the morning. I can't wait. I want to see if it has the glass tensioner on it.
    if you can haggle some more it will be even better. let us know how it goes.

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    the $200 price is not unreasonable, it is not an early glass tension version. Also the spool pin is in backwards.

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    You're right about the spool pin. I hadn't picked up on that. Steve, can you tell its age from the photo or you just know it doesn't have the glass tension from looking at it. It bugs me that there is only a view of the back of it. Guess I just need to wait until tomorrow. Patience, patience!

    Linda

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    here is the difference.

    Automatic - It was this part I saw sticking up from the back that let me know it was an "Automatic"
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    That is a cool-looking machine, really old. Does this type of machine sew well? $200 is a lot of money for a vintage machine for my budget but if it's something you want, go for it!! I would imagine these aren't often available (though I've seen a few on CL over the past year or so). Re. hand crank machines, does the old rule that the hand wheel's direction should always go toward the user (or away if rotary) apply? I thought that was primarily out of consideration for the motor. Is this machine a direct drive? The two machines in Steve's picture: in some ways I like the looks of the newer version, in other ways I prefer the older one. Both are really interesting -- a very graceful design.

    Now I want one.

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    Thank you Singerguy, SteveH and KenmoreRulesAll for your help and encouragement. Let me introduce Katie to you. She is dates back to 1889 according to the serial number and this site http://www.sewalot.com/willcox_&_gib...al_numbers.htm

    I will be starting a new post about her soon. Sew much to learn about her. Katie is my very first W&G. And, you are right KenmoreRulesAll, not many of these come up on craigslist, especially in my area. Sad to say, we think the owner just had a tragedy in their home. So, no, we didn't haggle the price down. We might have if the household wasn't so grieved.

    I have lots of questions but until I get them together here are a few photos...
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    Linda

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    http://sewextremeseams.blogspot.com/

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    LOL, that is how it starts....

    These come up all the time. (the newer ones)

    1st, they are chainstitchers not lockstitch machines. Most folks think that the chainstitch will unravel if you break it but it is not the case with these. They make a locking chainstitch that they claimed was even stronger than a standard lockstitch

    They must have been doing something right because these were first made inthe 1860's and the last were made in the late 1950's/early 1960's.... Serious longevity.

    They are also known as the "silent machine" because they do not have metal parts that interact like lockstitch machines.

    The final neat feature is that they have NO adjustments, except stitch length. NONE, not even tension.

    A very lovely lady We met at one of our shows told me her mom had used one of these in the 50's to make her entire prom dress. She went through the whole event terrified that the stitching would break or unravel. Obviously it never did, but when I told the daughter about the true nature of the stitch she told her mom and they had quite a good laugh about it.

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    This is a very good W & G video which explains threading and how to remove the chain stitch from the machine so it stays locked. Gibbs was a genius IMHO. I can't wait to sew on it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjKG9pdacv0

    You have probably already seen this.

    Anyone have a little wrench I can purchase. It did not come with anything but what you see in the photo, so I am also looking for a manual.

    Linda

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    Linda and Steve, thanks for the information and that video is a really good intro to these machines. Amazingly quiet and so simple to operate, even at the end of a chain where you cut the tail on top. I'm interested in the automatic tensioner and am wondering how it adjusts automatically. I assume there's a vertical mechanism...? And the underside of the stitch is beautifully done.

    I too have purchased a machine where someone recently died. It was sad at first but I knew that I was helping him out so I was happy to buy it and I wished them all well. It's strange that I valued the machine more than they did, as I didn't know her; their mother had treated it so lovingly and it seemed to me that they considered the machine merely an item to be rid of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SewExtremeSeams View Post
    ...so I am also looking for a manual.
    I sent you a PM. I have a copy that I can share.

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    I just won a New Home with only a clamp screw that's a W&G chainstitch clone. Are there free downloads on ISMAC for the manual?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveH View Post
    I sent you a PM. I have a copy that I can share.
    thanks Steve, I just sent you an email. I did find a great chart for where to oil. It is beginning to move a little more. I figure another day in the sun will help. Also, I need to replace the belt or tighten it. It actually doesn't look to be in too bad of shape but it is certainly stretched out.

    Linda

    Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me. I once was lost but now am found, was blind, but now I see.
    [John Newton (1725-1807)]

    http://sewextremeseams.blogspot.com/

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    What if I got oil in the automatic tensioner?

    Linda

    Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me. I once was lost but now am found, was blind, but now I see.
    [John Newton (1725-1807)]

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