Vintage Sewing Machine Shop.....Come on in and sit a spell
#5661
Originally Posted by Lostn51
They take information and research off of the site and print it in book form and claiming its their research and will not recognize the NB as the source of information. Everything on the site including photos, manuals, production figures and dates are copyrighted.
Billy
Nancy
Ok, I will get off my soap opera on the 9W! Love that machine! I need to get my granddaughter's halloween costumes done before halloween!
Nancy
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Originally Posted by BoJangles
Originally Posted by AlwaysJustBeth
Getting bummed now, lol!! My machine might not be an antique anymore if it newer than 1910!! But really tho, in the last few days I have found out more about it than I ever thought I would from this shop. My new belt arrived today but have class tonight so I didn't start playing. Tomorrow!!
Beth
Billy, Miz Johnny, Charlee, can you explain the lack of documentation on the 9W's? They seem to be the orphan child of Singer.
This board confuses me. My last post ended up in the middle of the last quote section. I'll figure this out!
Beth
Nancy
I keep eyeing my machine trying to figure out where to start cleaning.
Beth
#5663
Originally Posted by AlwaysJustBeth
Thanks Nancy! Do you know of a resource for needles for the 9W? I hate to use the only one I have esp. since it is a Singer 127x1.
I keep eyeing my machine trying to figure out where to start cleaning.
Beth
Also, if you do a search on e-bay for "needles 9W" you will find vintage/original 127x1 needles for the 9w, 3 for about $10. I almost bought some a while back that were 10 needles for $50, but you can get them cheaper than that if you watch e-bay.
Billy and Charlee are also working on an industrial needle that will work on the 9W.
Nancy
#5664
Originally Posted by BoJangles
Originally Posted by Lacelady
I would still like to get a new screw for my needleplate sometime - I'd be happy to buy or swap for fabric or something if anyone has one. Thanks for putting up with my rambling.
Nancy
#5665
Lacelady, there has been some discussion of the 'sewing on its own' problem lately on the featherweight site. I believe it was a wiring problem in the pedal.
On another note, it is so interesting, following this thread. I am learning a lot about the old machines. Thanks, everyone, for sharing your knowledge.
On another note, it is so interesting, following this thread. I am learning a lot about the old machines. Thanks, everyone, for sharing your knowledge.
#5666
Originally Posted by Quilt Mom
Lacelady, there has been some discussion of the 'sewing on its own' problem lately on the featherweight site. I believe it was a wiring problem in the pedal.
On another note, it is so interesting, following this thread. I am learning a lot about the old machines. Thanks, everyone, for sharing your knowledge.
On another note, it is so interesting, following this thread. I am learning a lot about the old machines. Thanks, everyone, for sharing your knowledge.
#5667
Here is an interesting tidbit for you vintage sewing machine people. Taken from the International Sewing Machine Collectors' Society, the "first Singer machine was $125," which was a year's salary for some people. They were "expensive to repair, not very reliable and not available in large quantities." "Each one was fitted up by hand and the parts were not interchangeable." It was during, because of, the Civil War that the interchangeable manufacture really began with the arms industry, thus new production facilities became available and "in the 1870's, the average production cost of a machine dropped to $12, though it still sold for $60." Again, so we will not be accused of plagiarism, this is information from ISMACS International!
So you guys that are lucky enough to own a pre-1900 machine may have a machine that was hand fitted because those machines were fitted "at the bench," which means fitted by filing to jigs and templates by hand and parts were not interchangeable.
I am on a quest now in our estate and yard sale hunts to find one of these vintage pre 1900 machines.
Nancy
So you guys that are lucky enough to own a pre-1900 machine may have a machine that was hand fitted because those machines were fitted "at the bench," which means fitted by filing to jigs and templates by hand and parts were not interchangeable.
I am on a quest now in our estate and yard sale hunts to find one of these vintage pre 1900 machines.
Nancy
#5668
Oh another interesting fact taken from ISMACS International, "In 1857 Edward Clark (Singer's partner) came up with another good idea for increasing sales. He announced a 'liberal plan of exchanging Singer's new and latest improved sewing machines for old or unimproved sewing machines of every kind.'
Meaning he started an exchange program to get people to buy Singer. They would bring in their old machines for part of the cost of a new Singer. When the old machines were traded in to Singer they were "immediately broken up and destroyed." So "from the collector's point of view the offer led to the destruction of most of the early competition and robbed us of many desirable, but now unrepresented, machines."
Wow, this makes it even more fun to find one of those 1800's machines!
Nancy
Meaning he started an exchange program to get people to buy Singer. They would bring in their old machines for part of the cost of a new Singer. When the old machines were traded in to Singer they were "immediately broken up and destroyed." So "from the collector's point of view the offer led to the destruction of most of the early competition and robbed us of many desirable, but now unrepresented, machines."
Wow, this makes it even more fun to find one of those 1800's machines!
Nancy
#5669
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/atq/1980671028.html
Here is a Wheeler & Wilson sewing machine. Since, Wheeler and Wilson sold to Singer in 1905, this machine has to be older than 1905?
Does anyone on this forum have an actual Wheeler & Wilson as opposed to a Singer 9W Wheeler and Wilson?
Nancy
Here is a Wheeler & Wilson sewing machine. Since, Wheeler and Wilson sold to Singer in 1905, this machine has to be older than 1905?
Does anyone on this forum have an actual Wheeler & Wilson as opposed to a Singer 9W Wheeler and Wilson?
Nancy
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Originally Posted by BoJangles
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/atq/1980671028.html
Here is a Wheeler & Wilson sewing machine. Since, Wheeler and Wilson sold to Singer in 1905, this machine has to be older than 1905?
Does anyone on this forum have an actual Wheeler & Wilson as opposed to a Singer 9W Wheeler and Wilson?
Nancy
Here is a Wheeler & Wilson sewing machine. Since, Wheeler and Wilson sold to Singer in 1905, this machine has to be older than 1905?
Does anyone on this forum have an actual Wheeler & Wilson as opposed to a Singer 9W Wheeler and Wilson?
Nancy
And there are several W&W #8's on this thread some even in their Parlor Cabinet. I see the early W&W's all the time so they are out there. What I am looking for are a few of the Antebellum machines to add to the collection.
Billy
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