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    Quote Originally Posted by nurseknitsLaura View Post
    have been working away on my sewing room for a few weeks. we hung the last cabinet tonight! I painAttachment 368506ted an ugly brown sewing table to use with all my vintage machines that are in bases. Likely I'll have to touch it up every so often, but it sure is cuter, and the top is much smoother, too. Laura
    Laura, I like the red sewing cabinet! If you have to paint a sewing table, it might as well be purrrty! I love red!

    Nancy

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    We have a very dear young man who is in Afghanistan who I keep in touch with through emails. He told me about a machine that he saw over there but at the time could not remember the name of it. Long story short he is here for a visit and we had a big BBQ last night, out of the blue, he turned to me and said "Seagull" and I said "what are you talking about. "That sewing machine, that's was the name of it". I've not heard the name before so when I got home did a search hoping to find a picture, but came up with nothing. Would any of you have any info. A curious mind would like to know. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkCastleDH View Post
    My problem with them is that ignorance is curable. Willful ignorance, though.... AAARGGGH!

    Joe - at least you tried and you had the presence of mind not to clock them when they showed that they didn't want to learn.
    Willful ignorance is a aarrggh!

    But what I find worst are the posters that post to say that they will show or share information, but then they never follow through with that promise. Or when they are asked questions and/or one makes suggestions for them, they never show recognition. What ever happened to a thanks.

    One spends the time to take an interest in them, answer their questions, and be their audience only to be jerked around by them.
    I have to learn to ignore and move on...maybe it will be today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    Willful ignorance is a aarrggh!

    But what I find worst are the posters that post to say that they will show or share information, but then they never follow through with that promise. Or when they are asked questions and/or one makes suggestions for them, they never show recognition. What ever happened to a thanks.

    One spends the time to take an interest in them, answer their questions, and be their audience only to be jerked around by them.
    I have to learn to ignore and move on...maybe it will be today.
    People like you just described are the internet version of the lady with the treadle. Mouth running and ears closed.

    I've gotten .... well I wouldn't say more patient with people as I've grown old, but they just don't trip my irritate switch like they used to.

    Learning to ignore them ..... perhaps but not yesterday.

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    I have a fiddle base Household. It takes the Boye#2 needle, which is no longer available. It stitches beautifully.
    I don't have anymore information on them. I may have a copy of a manual. I can look when I get home. I'm at the doctors office right now.

    Cathy



    Quote Originally Posted by pumpkinpatchquilter View Post
    Question - I found a Household treadle for sale...can anyone point me towards more information on it? Like how I might find out how old it is? It's NOT a fiddlebase but there doesn't seem to be a lot of info online. I see they were made by Provinence Tool Company. They are asking $125 which is kind of pricey for my budget...plus it's a drive.
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    Nancy,

    I saw Laura's red table last week. It looks so much better in person than in the picture.
    And her basement/ workshop is to die for. I am green with envy.

    Cathy



    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Laura, I like the red sewing cabinet! If you have to paint a sewing table, it might as well be purrrty! I love red!

    Nancy
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    I have been reading along, but being quiet. Like everyone else, gearing up for holiday projects, Halloween forward. I did a new fall flag to hang out by our driveway; also I have been working on several quilts and a bridesmaids dress, and two princess Halloween costumes that are also going to Disney this November to a tea party. I had to chime in on the idiocy in the world though. My mom used to say that there is compounded ignorance in many places, including our home town. Some people do no treasure the sewing machines at all. My first cousin just had a garage sale, and I bought 2 machines for $20-one is a Kenmore 158 with the big rectangular base, olive green, weighs a ton, sews like a dream. The other is a newer Dressmaker from the late 70's or early 80's, included all the cams and what have you. Not half the machine the Kenmore is for sure, but sews ok. Oiled them up, and wiped them down, and ready to go. Yall have acquired some pretty machines, and done some nice quilts, too. Here in Louisiana, it seems like it is too hot or too cold to get out to refinish some cabinets. And the dang west nile virus here is crazy this year, so I have been inside a lot. Keep up the good work. Oh, and I found a man who goes to auctions to get things for his monthly garage sales, and have him on the hunt for a red machine for me, or anything interesting that isn't too pricey, so I can't wait to see what he drags up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    Willful ignorance is a aarrggh!

    But what I find worst are the posters that post to say that they will show or share information, but then they never follow through with that promise. Or when they are asked questions and/or one makes suggestions for them, they never show recognition. What ever happened to a thanks.

    One spends the time to take an interest in them, answer their questions, and be their audience only to be jerked around by them.
    I have to learn to ignore and move on...maybe it will be today.
    I don't think I've been one of these people, but if I have I sincerely apologize! I often times have had people take infr from me without another word, but I have found the gift in giving. I don't need a thank you. I have a coworker who writes on the calendar the date of the wedding shower she has given a gift for. If she doesn't receive a thank you before the wedding, she does not give a wedding gift. I just think she is missing the blessing. If I never gave a gift (or information, response, etc) after NOT receiving a thank you, I most likely would never give another gift. What a shame.
    I'm getting older....I tend to forget things and as many times as I've written notes, or told myself "I will not forget", I do! An offer of information is not a promise. If I make an offer and after a few days you haven't received it, please remind me. I have a life beyond this quilt board and often forget I was going to do something, or even when to go somewhere. People are human and humans are imperfect. Sad that one may think my forgetfulness is "jerking" someone around, or ignorance on my part.
    I'm not "dis'n'" anyone....just thinking life has worse things to offer than this....my sister has lung cancer, my coworker's brother has throat cancer, my brother has an undiagnosed incapacitating pain in his legs and feet, my husband suffered a pituitary tumor, on and on and on! And still life goes on. Forgive and forget. Ignore and move on. LOL!
    On the sewing machine ignorance...my husbands cousin found their grandmothers sewing machine in the haymow of the barn as they were getting ready to tear it down. All rusted and horrible deplorable condition. He sandblasted it and primed it gray. Everything nice about it was ruined. But he gave it to me and it means the world to us as it was their grandma's. Someday we may find a Billy who is willing to do a paint for us. If not we have the story to tell to the grandkids. The manual was in the cabinet and so we do have a pic of what it should look like. Wouldn't it have been nice to have a pic of grandma using it?? Remember that ladies and gents....the machine you leave to your kids/grandkids will mean much more if they remember you using it or see pics of you using it. I think I may go set up the tripod now and do some self pics at every machine!! (Unless I forget to do it!!!) LOL! And then I'll go develop and stick a pic in the drawer of every cabinet...and the FW will have a pic in the box.....and the carry cases of the other machines! Unless...I.....4...get.....again!!!
    And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love Him, who have been called according to His purpose. Romans 8:28


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    Hi Everyone! I've been away from here for a while, due to access issues with my work computer, but appears I can get back on. Hope everyone is good. I lurk sometimes from home, and I see Charlee has had some health issues. I sent her a PM last night.

    Well, I got another old Davis VF1...it's probably 1893. I got it locally, which was amazing!! Not in great shape, but she sews well. The cabinet is damaged, so DH has some work to do. He has it clamped together right now so it won't shake apart when I treadle her. The coffin top is with it (amazingly!), but it's damaged, too, so another repair job. Overall I'm very happy with her...she came with some of her attachments and some needles and some bobbins. She was in the same family for about 85 years, and stored in a hot garage for the last 35 years. I'm glad I got to rescue her...the guy's mother was going to take her to the dump!! Here's a pic.
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    Jjack,
    I'm so glad that you were able to rescue her from certain death! The things people throw away.

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    I know, Sharon!! Amazing....they just don't see or know the value of these old girls. This is the history of the sewing machine in the USA. A good thing some of us want to preserve them and use them to keep them going.

    How you been? Feels like I've been away for years instead of just a few months!! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by jljack View Post
    Hi Everyone! I've been away from here for a while, due to access issues with my work computer, but appears I can get back on. Hope everyone is good. I lurk sometimes from home, and I see Charlee has had some health issues. I sent her a PM last night.

    Well, I got another old Davis VF1...it's probably 1893. I got it locally, which was amazing!! Not in great shape, but she sews well. The cabinet is damaged, so DH has some work to do. He has it clamped together right now so it won't shake apart when I treadle her. The coffin top is with it (amazingly!), but it's damaged, too, so another repair job. Overall I'm very happy with her...she came with some of her attachments and some needles and some bobbins. She was in the same family for about 85 years, and stored in a hot garage for the last 35 years. I'm glad I got to rescue her...the guy's mother was going to take her to the dump!! Here's a pic.
    We have one like yours. I think they are so pretty. Hope to move a machine out of sewing room and put mine in and use it. Have fun with yours. BTW how have you been?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jljack View Post
    I know, Sharon!! Amazing....they just don't see or know the value of these old girls. This is the history of the sewing machine in the USA. A good thing some of us want to preserve them and use them to keep them going.

    How you been? Feels like I've been away for years instead of just a few months!! LOL
    Glad to have you back with us. I'm doing fine and enjoying the newest girl in the herd. Gertrude, the Pfaff 60 treadle. Here she is in all her glory. She has a Singer spoked hand wheel on her now and a belt; due to the larger drive wheel, requires a longer belt. Had to order one from Cindy Peters. We're making scrappy log cabin blocks.
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    How can I put this .......

    OK, here's a try. In the past machines were made with pride, out of materials that would last 4 lifetimes. People had little disposable income and when they shelled out that very hard earned money the things they bought had to work and to last.
    Sewing machines are a prime example.
    There was the great depression that crippled our country for a while. The old machines that were being used labored on.
    Then WW II and 5 years of more hardship.

    After that things changed. Prosperity happened. Jobs, manufacturing, income it all increased as our economy boomed. Lots of people had more money than they knew what to do with. Why use the old treadle Gramma had, I'll buy a new machine.
    Because of the manufacturing advances made during the war things began to be made cheaper. Just look at the stamped metal and plastic that came about not 15 years after WW II. The quality and longevity of things began to diminish and many were just tossed aside as they aged and no longer worked.
    Over the years this mindset has gotten ingrained into the last two generations. Young people today have more disposable income than their parents or grand parents or gggrand parents did, and have lost the pride of ownership. Why try to fix it, I'll just go buy another one, it's cheaper. And that brings me to now. With a small group of exceptions, modern sewing machines are nothing to be proud of. Plastic, stamped metal, crude castings. Throw away junque. The electronic or computer controlled ones are the worst. When one dinky little electronic thing dies, they cost so much to fix it's not worth it. Junk, junk, junk for the most part. No pride left in our manufacturers and nothing to be proud of owning.
    This attitude is passed on to those older machines, young folks by the large have no sense of history or of what lead us to where we are now. They live for the day and couldn't care less about yesterday.

    I look at my old machines and wish they had the ability to tell their stories. Especially those made before the wars. Machines that made clothes, curtains, bedding, diapers, napkins and so forth. Machines that I am refurbishing so they'll last another lifetime. That is, "IF" I can find someone who cares, to sell, give, or bequeath to.

    Other than those on the several sewing forums that care for the antiques and vintage machines I know nobody personally to pass them on to.

    My wife and I are not getting any younger, all I can do is hope that when we're gone those old machines we still have will be passed on to someone who cares.

    Now I've made myself depressed ......

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    How can I put this .......

    OK, here's a try. In the past machines were made with pride, out of materials that would last 4 lifetimes. People had little disposable income and when they shelled out that very hard earned money the things they bought had to work and to last.
    Sewing machines are a prime example.
    There was the great depression that crippled our country for a while. The old machines that were being used labored on.
    Then WW II and 5 years of more hardship.

    After that things changed. Prosperity happened. Jobs, manufacturing, income it all increased as our economy boomed. Lots of people had more money than they knew what to do with. Why use the old treadle Gramma had, I'll buy a new machine.
    Because of the manufacturing advances made during the war things began to be made cheaper. Just look at the stamped metal and plastic that came about not 15 years after WW II. The quality and longevity of things began to diminish and many were just tossed aside as they aged and no longer worked.
    Over the years this mindset has gotten ingrained into the last two generations. Young people today have more disposable income than their parents or grand parents or gggrand parents did, and have lost the pride of ownership. Why try to fix it, I'll just go buy another one, it's cheaper. And that brings me to now. With a small group of exceptions, modern sewing machines are nothing to be proud of. Plastic, stamped metal, crude castings. Throw away junque. The electronic or computer controlled ones are the worst. When one dinky little electronic thing dies, they cost so much to fix it's not worth it. Junk, junk, junk for the most part. No pride left in our manufacturers and nothing to be proud of owning.
    This attitude is passed on to those older machines, young folks by the large have no sense of history or of what lead us to where we are now. They live for the day and couldn't care less about yesterday.

    I look at my old machines and wish they had the ability to tell their stories. Especially those made before the wars. Machines that made clothes, curtains, bedding, diapers, napkins and so forth. Machines that I am refurbishing so they'll last another lifetime. That is, "IF" I can find someone who cares, to sell, give, or bequeath to.

    Other than those on the several sewing forums that care for the antiques and vintage machines I know nobody personally to pass them on to.

    My wife and I are not getting any younger, all I can do is hope that when we're gone those old machines we still have will be passed on to someone who cares.

    Now I've made myself depressed ......

    Joe
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    Quote Originally Posted by jljack View Post
    Well, I got another old Davis VF1...it's probably 1893. I got it locally, which was amazing!! Not in great shape, but she sews well. The cabinet is damaged, so DH has some work to do. He has it clamped together right now so it won't shake apart when I treadle her. The coffin top is with it (amazingly!), but it's damaged, too, so another repair job. Overall I'm very happy with her...she came with some of her attachments and some needles and some bobbins. She was in the same family for about 85 years, and stored in a hot garage for the last 35 years. I'm glad I got to rescue her...the guy's mother was going to take her to the dump!! Here's a pic.
    Janice, That Davis cabinet looks very nice. I'm glad that you are the new steward. Good to see you back on the QB!
    I took a peek of your Big Red Oceans Waves on your friend's blog. Your quilt is gorgeous!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    Nancy,

    I saw Laura's red table last week. It looks so much better in person than in the picture.
    And her basement/ workshop is to die for. I am green with envy.

    Cathy
    Wow Cathy, I'd love to see her sewing room! Laura why don't you post some photos for us?

    Randa, that is a very good idea about the pictures of the machines with their people! I have searched high and low just to find a photo of my mother treadling her mother's machine! Nothing, natta, no pictures anywhere! I would love to know what machine she treadled! My Dad bought Mom her first electric (Pfaff 130) machine just to keep her home! She'd go over to Gramma's house and use Gramma's treadle to make clothes for my brother and me. I will never know what treadle my Grandmother had - no photos of the machine anywhere!

    Joe, hopefully someone will want to preserve the old machines we all have invested our time, money, and love into!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by sew wishful View Post
    I'm not "dis'n'" anyone....just thinking life has worse things to offer than this....my sister has lung cancer, my coworker's brother has throat cancer, my brother has an undiagnosed incapacitating pain in his legs and feet, my husband suffered a pituitary tumor, on and on and on! And still life goes on. Forgive and forget. Ignore and move on. LOL!


    WOW! Randa sorry to hear that you know so many folks that are not well. Prayers go out to each of them and a prayer for you too.
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    Name:  Debbie's Repro HC.jpg
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Size:  199.5 KBOk this is just sad. My girl friend called me so excited. She'd found a Singer sphinx at an auction. It had been auctioned off before she had a chance to view the machine. She talked an "antique" dealer who had just paid $50 for the machine to sell it to her for $90. She thought it was so pretty that she was willing to give him the $40 extra. Well, she sent me a photo! Geeze, I didn't know if I should just keep my mouth shut about what she had, or tell her the truth? Anyway, I decided to tell her that she didn't have a vintage HC at all, but a modern reproduction of the original Singer model 15 with a Sphinx decal - probably made in either Taiwan or China. What do you guys think? Do you think I should not have burst her bubble?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Ok this is just sad. My girl friend called me so excited. She'd found a Singer sphinx at an auction. It had been auctioned off before she had a chance to view the machine. She talked an "antique" dealer who had just paid $50 for the machine to sell it to her for $90. She thought it was so pretty that she was willing to give him the $40 extra. Well, she sent me a photo! Geeze, I didn't know if I should just keep my mouth shut about what she had, or tell her the truth? Anyway, I decided to tell her that she didn't have a vintage HC at all, but a modern reproduction of the original Singer model 15 with a Sphinx decal - probably made in either Taiwan or China. What do you guys think? Do you think I should not have burst her bubble?Attachment 370098

    Nancy
    You are in a no win - if you tell her she is going to be mad at herself and maybe you... If you don't tell her and she finds out she is going to be mad at you for not telling her...

    Had to help put an alternator in our son's car this afternoon - got nothing done today... bummer.
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    Nancy,

    A lot of those come out of India too. { http://www.singerindia.net/Straight_Stich.aspx?id=1 }

    I'm looking for one that's a treadle machine.
    And yes I would have told her. She didn't get taken too much as those do retail for more than she paid.

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    Miriam,

    I didn't have to put in an alternator today and I didn't get anything done either. Well, I worked on the HOTHER and the 15-91 and cut out a few J Miller Whacky Bag squares. But I didn't get anything "finished".

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
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Size:  199.5 KBOk this is just sad. My girl friend called me so excited. She'd found a Singer sphinx at an auction. It had been auctioned off before she had a chance to view the machine. She talked an "antique" dealer who had just paid $50 for the machine to sell it to her for $90. She thought it was so pretty that she was willing to give him the $40 extra. Well, she sent me a photo! Geeze, I didn't know if I should just keep my mouth shut about what she had, or tell her the truth? Anyway, I decided to tell her that she didn't have a vintage HC at all, but a modern reproduction of the original Singer model 15 with a Sphinx decal - probably made in either Taiwan or China. What do you guys think? Do you think I should not have burst her bubble?

    Nancy
    Nancy, You need to tell her that the machine is a reproduction, but you can also spin it in a way that doesn't look like she got a bad deal. There are folks that prefer these 15s over the older machines for FMQ since they state the Japanese made machines sew better. Plus the box and lid look to be in very nice condition, worth some of that extra $40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    Nancy, You need to tell her that the machine is a reproduction, but you can also spin it in a way that doesn't look like she got a bad deal. There are folks that prefer these 15s over the older machines for FMQ since they state the Japanese made machines sew better. Plus the box and lid look to be in very nice condition, worth some of that extra $40.
    Yeah and at least it isn't a plastic wonder sewing machine.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Yeah and at least it isn't a plastic wonder sewing machine.
    For real!

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